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Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?
Crisis Magazine ^
| November 24, 2014
| DENNIS BONNETTE
Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer
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To: verga
I am a legitimate Catholic theologian, and I am also rational. You are wrong.
Thank you and good to see you again verga!
But we already know there are plenty of RCs who believe Genesis is accurate in every detail, including the parts that are hard to understand for us dumbed-down products of public southern education.
Many non-Catholics also believe that parts of Genesis are conflicted and "storified" for passing down as oral history.
Okay, verga, I'm ready...
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To: Resettozero
Yep. Thats them in that picture. Id recognize them anywhere. That be them.
Those are my relatives. I kind of look like them actually.
To: lexington minuteman 1775
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:24:30 PM PST
by
CityCenter
(In remembrance of Buckley, my beloved beagle who passed on 11/3/2014.)
To: ravenwolf
>> “I think it is reasonable to believe that Adam was not in the sixth day creation but later.” <<
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That sounds like catholic talk for sure!
Reasonable to disbelieve God?
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:25:12 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: verga
Thank you for documenting again the hazards of Sola Scriptura. Yeah, that was obviously the problem.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:25:18 PM PST
by
xone
To: editor-surveyor
One can either believe our creator, or believe the impossible. The catholic church tries to straddle the fence, and the gap is bigger than the Grand Canyon the Catholic Church has believed in, and written about Adam and Eve 1,600 years before there were Protestants....
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:26:10 PM PST
by
terycarl
To: NYer
Adam was actually a gorilla. And he did the "deed" with a bonobo chimp, and from that "union", we got Adam. Which one of the apes came up with the name "Adam", remains a mystery to this day.
Mr gorilla did the "deed" again, but, with a monkey, and from that, we got Eve.
Evolution 101.
;)
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:26:19 PM PST
by
adorno
(a)
To: NYer; Alex Murphy
Jesus believed in them. I don’t see why I should do otherwise.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:26:33 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Joel Osteen is a Gospel preacher like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
To: allendale
"No legitimate Catholic theologian, rational Catholic, or Church dogma accepts a literal interpretation of the Genesis stories." If this includes you, I'm sorry for you.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:28:09 PM PST
by
CatherineofAragon
((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
To: erkelly
The incestuous relationship between Lot and his daughters occurred more than 400 years before Noah was given the law, including the laws forbidding incest and polygamy.Lot lived after Noah. Noah is Genesis 5. Lot's story begins in Genesis 12, (After his birth is mentioned in Genesis 11.)
Perhaps you mean Moses. But the law did not forbid polygamy either. David and Solomon both had multiple wives and found favor with the Lord for quite a while.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:28:53 PM PST
by
verga
(You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
To: verga
Thank you for documenting again the hazards of Sola Scriptura.
Now, verga, I WAS glad to see you until you picked out one obviously error-filled post just to make this (invalid) point.
That's akin to running over an already-wounded dog who is suffering in the roadway.
Bad form.
To: terycarl
Followers of Yeshua believed “The Way” (or “The Teaching” if you prefer) that catholics reject for 300 years before the catholic church existed.
Read Irenaeus “Against Heresies,” where he denounced all that the papists embrace.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:31:36 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: sasportas
It’s like Noah and the flood, or the existence of Satan. How can any so-called believer doubt these if they believe in Jesus? He believed in these. He referenced Noah. He referenced Satan. He referenced Moses. He referenced the Second Coming. I don’t know how it all worked out, but I wasn’t there. He was.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:33:54 PM PST
by
LS
('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
To: Arthur McGowan
Asimov was Jewish by birth but described himself as agnostic and later as an atheist.
On the other hand Arthur C. Clarke, who actually wrote 2001 A space Odyssey and it's sequels, described himself as a Secular Humanist.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:35:31 PM PST
by
verga
(You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
To: Boogieman
"Well, were in good company, with Jesus Christ and the apostles." Yes.
If Genesis isn't factually true, when did the Fall happen? When did sin enter the world? What event or set of circumstances triggered it? Toss out Genesis, and you toss out the need for redemption, which is a basic tenet of our faith, and the reason Jesus died on the cross.
More than once during His ministry, Jesus affirmed the factual truth of Genesis. He referred to the first man and the first woman. If not Adam and Eve, as His own word related, who then was He referring to?
Bill and Cheryl?
Jorge and Rosita?
Rasheem and Ta'Quanda?
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:36:00 PM PST
by
CatherineofAragon
((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
To: verga
You Papists never pass up a chance to bash Protestants and Sola Scriptura. (Assuming the person you responded to is in fact a Protestant, maybe he is a Papist?)
Can’t speak for him but the poster obviously must have meant to say Lot not Noah. A simple case of not thinking through what he is posting. Along the liens of typos, etc.
To: editor-surveyor
That sounds like catholic talk for sure!
Reasonable to disbelieve God?
No kidding?
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:40:59 PM PST
by
ravenwolf
(` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
To: verga
Did Asimov have any connection with 2001 at all?
I saw 2001 at age 14 in 1967. Not a sci-fi aficionado.
To: Resettozero
You got it right, thank you.
And one of the worst mistakes ever made was to yank the Bible out of the classroom of public schools.
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posted on
11/24/2014 3:41:39 PM PST
by
verga
(You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
To: editor-surveyor
Followers of Yeshua believed The Way (or The Teaching if you prefer) that catholics reject for 300 years before the catholic church existed. Read Irenaeus Against Heresies, where he denounced all that the papists embrace.
Yes. But the RCC posters here will not admit it is true. Some here on FR are more oriented to defending their very-flawed RCC than they seem to be in learning and confessing what is really true
And I too plan to look up this writing by Irenaeus and read it (again).
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