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To: defconw; terycarl; Iscool

Well, terycarl, iscool can rest his case.

Post 11 here, the very next post, validates it.

Catholics consider Catholicism their home.

Meanwhile, Christians consider heaven their home.


14 posted on 11/17/2014 5:33:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Heaven is present at Holy Mass, daily. I am rather sorry that you have no need of the spiritual side of life. It is quite a comfort to those of us who are on our Journey.

I am not going to argue about it with you or your friends that you called for backup. But until you have encountered Christ in the Eucharist, there really is no way to explain it to you that you would accept or understand.

15 posted on 11/17/2014 5:37:23 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: metmom; defconw; terycarl
Catholics consider Catholicism their home. Meanwhile, Christians consider heaven their home.

Catholics do not believe in Heaven...That's why their religion, or their building is as close to a physical heaven as they will ever get...That's why it is Home for them...

According to the pope they call John:

Metaphorically speaking, heaven is understood as the dwelling-place of God

In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language.

However the biblical metaphor makes it clear that God does not identify himself with heaven, nor can he be contained in it (cf. 1 Kgs 8:27); and this is true, even though in some passages of the First Book of the Maccabees "Heaven" is simply one of God's names (1 Mc 3:18, 19, 50, 60; 4:24, 55).

The thought of hell — and even less the improper use of biblical images — must not create anxiety or despair, but is a necessary and healthy reminder of freedom within the proclamation that the risen Jesus has conquered Satan, giving us the, Spirit of God who makes us cry "Abba, Father!" (Rm. 8:15; Gal. 4:6)

From Here...

Catholics admittedly are NOT 'born again' Christians...They don't believe in a physical heaven...They don't know what the REAL, real presence is...They teach that their good works is what will get them into this 'utopia' called heaven...Hell is not a physical place...Purgatory is not a physical place...

They invented a religion that can not be found in the scriptures...Other than the name 'Christian' they stole from the scriptures, there in no connection between their religion and Christianity...

At the link is an interesting Catholic read...

17 posted on 11/17/2014 9:40:17 AM PST by Iscool
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