Posted on 11/02/2014 3:14:08 PM PST by NYer
I am hoping that having to deal with our “separated brethren” here will earn me at least a partial indulgence.
Honoring the dead with prayers actually goes back to Genesis. And also, when Moses and the whole crew were leaving Egypt they took Joseph’s bones with them. If the dead were not important to them they’d a left him.
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
I AM female, but this quote just had to be verbatum. :o)
Life would be much EASIER not being a Catholic. THINK of all the things we have and do that Protestants don't have to do.
I made a list a while back on all the things that I could think of that Catholics do and have that Protestants don't have. It was a LONG list.
I never knew that they took Joseph's bones back with them.
Catholics can believe whatever they want. But when they come out in public and promote falsehoods, blasphemies, and error they had better understand to have them refuted from scripture. Those who read these threads are going to see the truth as well as the falsehoods of Catholicism.
24 Then Joseph said to his brothers, I am about to die. But God will surely come to your aid and take you up out of this land to the land he promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 25 And Joseph made the Israelites swear an oath and said, God will surely come to your aid, and then you must carry my bones up from this place.
It was his wish to be buried in the Promised Land.
Rabbi Naftali Brawer:
There is a key argument in the Talmud regarding the length of sentence in Gehinom for sinners and the widely accepted view is that with rare exception the longest sentence does not exceed twelve months. In this sense Gehinom is more like purgatory than eternal damnation.
Source: The Jewish Chronicle Online, August 25, 2011
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Thank you.
When a prayer from a child rings, the soul from purgatory SINGS.
When a prayer from a child sings, the soul from purgatory WINGS.
But, thanks anyway for the Ka-CHING prayer. Shows that your heart wallet is in the right place. :o)
Judaism is not just Christianity without the Messiah, it is a completely different religion with its own assumptions and conceptualizations.
There WAS a thread about Purgatory in the "Catholic Caucus" recently. This thread, however, was posted as an OPEN Religion Forum topic and had the following assertion:
If that is the only place in the Bible where we find any reference to purgatory, many Protestant Christians argue, then that is a weak support for such a practice. Fortunately, we know as Catholics that all of our doctrines are indeed found in the Word of God, as is the doctrine of Purgatory. Hence what follows is a biblical understanding of the Catholic doctrine of Purgatory.
Should your fellow Freepers who are called "Protestants" not be permitted to respond to such assertions? Should we not be allowed to refute what we see as false doctrine and a perversion of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Sorry if some RCs get their knickers in a knot whenever someone DARES disagree with them, but that IS the benefit of having this website - we can discuss what we believe with others. If someone is unable to bear reading rebuttals of his faith without seeing "anti-Catholic", "bashing", "criticizing", "mocking" or "deprecation" behind every comment, perhaps the OPEN RF is not where he should go. Bringing such an attitude is seen as disrupting to the thread.
Yes, I do understand that but I hadn't known that Judaism had any thoughts about purgatory. I didn't even know they used that word.
Rabbi Naftali Brawer:
There is a key argument in the Talmud regarding the length of sentence in Gehinom for sinners and the widely accepted view is that with rare exception the longest sentence does not exceed twelve months. In this sense Gehinom is more like purgatory than eternal damnation.
Source: The Jewish Chronicle Online, August 25, 2011
NYer also posted that one, so I'm sure she knows all about the rules of OPEN Religion Forum threads. I'd suggest that if someone doesn't want to read contrary views, he should avoid OPEN threads. However, since THIS one did mention what "Protestants" think on the subject of Purgatory, it's only fair that they be allowed to comment.
I believe that was Tetzel’s sales pitch for the indulgences.
Hindsight is always 20-20, isn’t it?
I tried it for a while and had to come back. The worship was empty and they didn't have the Real Presence.
“...Should we not be allowed to refute what we see as false doctrine...?”
No, because non catholics do not understand catholic theology and always get it wrong. Also - our scriptural proof texts are always ignored by non catholics when cited, even though they are valid and biblical.
Non catholics have no business “refuting” something they do not comprehend.
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