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Trust Your Own Experience
Richard Rohr's Daily Meditation (email) ^ | October 28, 2014 | Fr. Richard Rohr

Posted on 10/28/2014 3:14:48 AM PDT by DaveMSmith

The most unfortunate thing about the concept of mysticism is that the word itself has become mystified—and relegated to a “misty” and distant realm that implies it is only available to a very few. For me, the word simply means experiential knowledge of spiritual things, as opposed to book knowledge, secondhand knowledge, or even church knowledge.

Most of organized religion, without meaning to, has actually discouraged us from taking the mystical path by telling us almost exclusively to trust outer authority, Scripture, tradition, or various kinds of experts (what I call the “containers”)—instead of telling us the value and importance of inner experience itself (which is the actual “content” the containers were made to hold). In fact, most of us were strongly warned against ever trusting ourselves. Roman Catholics were told to trust the church hierarchy first and last, while mainline Protestants were often warned that inner experience was dangerous, unscriptural, or even unnecessary.

Both were ways of discouraging actual experience of God and often created passive (and passive aggressive) people and, more sadly, a lot of people who concluded that there was no God to be experienced. We were taught to mistrust our own souls—and thus the Holy Spirit! Contrast that with Jesus’ common phrase, “Go in peace, your faith has made you whole!” He said this to people who had made no dogmatic affirmations, did not think he was “God,” did not pass any moral checklist, and often did not belong to the “correct” group! They were simply people who trustfully affirmed, with open hearts, the grace of their own hungry experience—in that moment—and that God could or would even care about it!

Adapted from Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi, pp. 1-2

Gateway to Silence: Lord, let your mercy be on us, as we place our trust in you.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: directexperience; mysticism
I have several of Fr Richard Rohr's books - all are in plain language and easy to understand. If there's interest, I can post his daily meditations here for discussion.
1 posted on 10/28/2014 3:14:49 AM PDT by DaveMSmith
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To: DaveMSmith
Contrast that with Jesus’ common phrase, “Go in peace, your faith has made you whole!” He said this to people who had made no dogmatic affirmations, did not think he was “God,”...

Are you sure about that?
2 posted on 10/28/2014 4:00:08 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: DaveMSmith

http://spiritualdirection.com/2014/09/05/can-trust-fr-richard-rohr
Can I Trust Fr. Richard Rohr?

September 5, 2014 by Dan Burke
Filed under Can I Trust?, Dan Burke, Featured

Numerous readers have asked, “Can I trust Fr. Richard Rohr?” As long time subscribers to Catholic Spiritual Direction know, we prefer to focus on the positive side of spirituality and to leave the apologetics and correction of false and otherwise dangerous teachings to those who are called to that emphasis. Even so, we regularly get emails asking if a particular author is trustworthy or not and in a few cases we feel obligated to respond. All of these posts can be found by searching “Can I Trust”. Our readers ask us about these matters because they know that our apostolate is well grounded in magisterium faithful Catholic theology and that we would never knowingly publish any writer or perspective that is not similarly disposed.

Our friends at Women of Grace have also received questions about Fr. Richard Rohr and have given us permission to provide their response here which I have edited. It is important to note that I am familiar with Fr. Rohr’s writings but have yet had time to provide my own analysis. That said, what you will read below is an accurate and trustworthy account of his teachings.

An anonymous writer asks: “I have a Protestant friend who is very interested in the writings/teachings of Fr. Richard Rohr. I’m afraid my friend may be getting wrong ideas about our Church. I don’t know why I have a strange feeling about this Priest, when I really know next to nothing about what he teaches. Do you know if his writings are orthodox and loyal to the Magisterium? Am I completely off-base, or should my friend be warned about Fr. Rohr?”

This writer has a very keen spiritual sense, because there are indeed problems with Fr. Richard Rohr that the faithful should be aware of.

Fr. Rohr is deeply involved in the New Age. On the website for his Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC), a “training and formation center” based in Albuquerque, New Mexico that he founded in 1987, he says the purpose of his work is to provide “a faith alternative to the dominant consciousness” (whatever that means).

The CAC was a well-known hub for the Church’s premier dissent group in the U.S., better known as Call to Action (endorses women’s ordination, homosexuality, goddess worship, etc.).

Fr. Rohr has also been a long-time teacher of the Enneagram, an enormously popular New Age gimmick used for discerning one’s personality type. A specific warning against the use of the Enneagram for spiritual direction is included in the pontifical document, Jesus Christ, the Bearer of the Water of Life.

Another area where he is heavily involved is in the Emerging Church Movement, which consists of a diverse group of people who identify with Christianity but think its beliefs and teachings need to be “updated” to better conform to modern society (read compromise the faith).

Fr. Rohr participates in Emerging Church conferences and workshops alongside the leaders of this movement, such as Brian McClaren, a “theologian” who thinks the current version of Christianity only partialy reflects the truth. Another player, Phyllis Tickle, recently told an audience that “By eating the body and blood of our God, we are feeding the god within us . . .”

I think you get the drift.

Unfortunately, Fr. Rohr is able to promulgate his questionable belief system by being a prolific writer, publishing a quarterly journal, Radical Grace, and authoring more than 15 books thus far. His latest work (as of the writing of this post), The Naked Now: Learning to See as the Mystics is currently #1 at Amazon for books dealing with mysticism. (Whether or not it teaches Catholic mysticism I can’t say because I haven’t read the book, but judging by what I already know about him, I have plenty of reason to doubt it.)

This translates into a wide audience for a version of Catholicism that does not conform to the Magisterium.

Fr. Bryce Sibley, STL, after having read one of his books, concluded that “Fr. Richard Rohr adheres to some very questionable, if not dangerous, beliefs.” In [a Catholic Culture article], he lists several serious flaws in Fr. Rohr’s teachings, such as his assertion that the crucifixion wasn’t necessary because the Incarnation was all that was needed to redeem humanity.

Fr. Rohr also has a “weak understanding” of original sin, Fr. Sibley said, noting that “without a proper understanding of Original Sin, Christ is reduced to nothing more than a prophet who teaches us to love ourselves, and this is unfortunately who Rohr’s Christ turns out to be.”

I could go on and on, but I think you have the general idea that this is a priest in need of prayer whose writings and activities do not reflect the true teachings of the Church. Please pray for him!

Originally published by Women of Grace on March 10, 2010 by SBrinkmann. Used with permission.

Editors’ Note: There are a number of writers and teachers in the Church who sometimes stray to the outer boundaries of theological propriety. In the case of Fr. Rohr, he seems to spend all of his time and energies sucking faithful Catholics well outside of the heart of the Church in down a path of spiritual destruction. Without exception, his writings should be completely avoided. To learn more you can find a trustworthy review, examples, and links via Catholic Culture’s review on Fr. Rohr’s “Center for Action and Contemplation” site here.


3 posted on 10/28/2014 8:09:04 AM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: DaveMSmith

>”I have several of Fr Richard Rohr’s books - all are in >plain language and easy to understand. If there’s interest, >I can post his daily meditations here for discussion.”

Please dont!


4 posted on 10/28/2014 8:09:56 AM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: DaveMSmith

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=655

“He felt, for example, that the punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah was due to their inhospitality to strangers, and not to their desire to sodomize them. Fr. Robinson’s unusual perspective came as no surprise to area Catholics who were aware that five months earlier, Fr. Robinson had co-presided with Fr. Rohr at the “wedding” of a lesbian couple.”

Catholic charismatics recalled Fr. Rohr from 15 years ago. “He was a wonderful, inspiring speaker back then,” they reminisced. “And he still is quite a speaker. He has a real gift. But somewhere along the way, over the years, he fell off the track.”


5 posted on 10/28/2014 8:36:17 AM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: DaveMSmith

If I was going to go with spiritualism or mysticism ( experiential knowledge of spiritual things ) why would I want to help some one else get a boat load of money by buying their books?


6 posted on 10/28/2014 3:51:17 PM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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To: DaveMSmith

Come on now, what say you?


7 posted on 10/29/2014 11:39:01 AM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns...and kneeling at the feet of Mary)
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