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To: CynicalBear
As I said I am not arguing for pacifism. If Jesus thought the two swords were "enough" (really? for the defense of 12 men?) it's clearly not for the defense of 12 men!! They were needed, as He explained, for symbolic purposes, for prophecy to be fulfilled:

Luke 22:36-38

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

And if it was for defense, why did Jesus within minutes disarm Peter, when he tried using the sword for defense?

Like I said, I'm not a pacifist and I'm not defending pacifism. I'm just telling you what's there. The NT record and the historic record do not show one instance of a Christian community arming itself for defense despite 300 years of violent persecution directed against their homes, their families and their congregations.

1,349 posted on 10/13/2014 7:36:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>And if it was for defense, why did Jesus within minutes disarm Peter, when he tried using the sword for defense?<<

Jesus explained that. He said: "Put the sword into the sheath; the cup which the Father has given Me, shall I not drink it?" He knew it was time.

1,351 posted on 10/13/2014 8:07:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Then why did Jesus tell them to buy a sword?


1,762 posted on 10/15/2014 11:38:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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