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Family Feud Arises Over Late Chuck Smith’s Megachurch
Charisma News ^ | 9/29/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

Posted on 09/29/2014 4:27:34 PM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 09/29/2014 4:27:34 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 09/29/2014 4:29:15 PM PDT by Gamecock
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What a shame.

While there was much I didn’t agree with in his preaching he did give a very clear, accurate presentation of the Gospel message.


3 posted on 09/29/2014 4:30:49 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

why wasn’t the daughter suing more involved? It seems like she left the care to one sister.
Sadly I know this happens alot when one child does all the caretaking and after the parents death the other sibling nitpicks that care never being fully involved.

Not taking care of the widow is a shame. It seems like greed has played a part in the church’s board decision but having a will could have prevented this.


5 posted on 09/29/2014 4:38:02 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Gamecock

What to families argue about when family memebers die?

Survey Says!!!!

1-Money/Property


6 posted on 09/29/2014 4:41:35 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Gamecock

This is unfortunate. From what I know the last thing Chuck Smith would want to see is a fight over his church.

Unlike a lot of pastors of mega-churches he never intended to create one. It was a case of being in the right place at the right time.


7 posted on 09/29/2014 4:43:08 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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When Pastor Chuck Smith passed away last year, few expected a family feud.

Some of us had expected it...

"When an organization as large and powerful as Calvary Chapel is utterly devoid of checks and balances or doctrinal, financial, and moral accountability, the results will not be surprising: abuse, power-struggles, and the oft-unspoken fear of raising even the smallest objection to the whims of the powers that be."
-- Jason Spellman, former Calvary Chapel pastor, in Calvary Chapel and the Calvinists
"...the Calvary Distinctives [link now broken] are a whole lot different than the Westminster Confession. Anyone who reads the Calvary document should be troubled that Chuck Smith makes no reference to God as a Trinity, or to the Deity of Jesus Christ. You can believe in almost anything so long as you behave in the right way."
-- Alex Murphy, October 9, 2009
Related threads:
Before Harold Camping, There Was Chuck Smith
Pastor Chuck Smith Stuns Radio Listeners By Encouraging Woman To Abort
Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel, and their Ignorance Fest on Calvinism
Making Bad Prophecy Predictions Vanish
Kestler speaks out - Calvary Chapel pastor responds to news story
Biometric Scanning Reportedly Used by Millions of Consumers [Chuck Smith / Mark of the Beast]
Father, Son and Holy Rift [Calvary Chapel/Chuck Smith]
Losing My Religion
CHOSEN -- Chuck Smith's Commentary on Romans Chapter 9

8 posted on 09/29/2014 4:43:39 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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There were plenty of responsible people looking after Chuck Smith. I’ll be very surprised if his widow Kay isn’t being cared for as well.

Chuck Smith had been ill with lung cancer for a long time. His oldest daughter is speaking as if calling 911 would have saved him. It looks like she is letting grief cloud her thinking.


9 posted on 09/29/2014 4:53:04 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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well I can understand that having many family who have died from cancer. It is hard to acknowledge when its time to stop fighting when the cancer has served its death sentence.


10 posted on 09/29/2014 4:57:26 PM PDT by RginTN
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Dancing on the grave, Alex?

I wouldn’t think doing that reflects too well on Calvinism.


11 posted on 09/29/2014 4:57:35 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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That’s what it looks like to me. Chuck had been appearing on a weekly internet TV show his last couple of years and you could see him decline. I’m sure it’s hard for his daughter to accept that he was going to die.

He wasn’t an egomaniac or a fool and the article mentions that he had set up a 21 person leadership council to oversee the affairs of Calvary Chapel. Sounds to me like he had planned ahead.


12 posted on 09/29/2014 5:03:26 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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Please add me to your ping list. Thank you!

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13 posted on 09/29/2014 5:06:39 PM PDT by ragmop
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Nobody had called 911 until my nephew finally stepped in and did it. The nurse wouldn't do it and told him not to call 911," said Manderson.

Was he under hospice care at that point? Sounds like he might have been. At some point you have to decide whether to let an 86 year old with cancer die peacefully at home, or keep dragging him to the hospital to prolong the suffering.

As to the property issues - what do the legal documents say? What were the terms of the annuity contract?

14 posted on 09/29/2014 5:13:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RginTN

The Board cut off the annuity? I thought those things were supposed to be pre-funded, or is that just one established by a court settlement??


15 posted on 09/29/2014 5:16:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I don’t see any problem with linking relating articles


16 posted on 09/29/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PAR35

I was thinking the samethings.


17 posted on 09/29/2014 5:35:43 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: ragmop

Done!


18 posted on 09/29/2014 5:39:46 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: GeronL

Which was the best one for you? The “I left Calvary Chapel 17 years ago and am an ex-Christian who calls CC a cult” or the numerous Gary Demar Christian Reconstruction vs Dispensationalism pieces?


19 posted on 09/29/2014 5:51:44 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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These didn’t click.

I just remember hearing Smith in the 2002-2004 time frame. I know he didn’t embrace God’s sovereignty, but wow!


20 posted on 09/29/2014 5:54:20 PM PDT by Gamecock
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