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How Strange: Longing For Heaven Is Almost Never Expressed Today
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 9/17/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/18/2014 2:06:25 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

People are more concerned with ice bucket challenges and running for this and that and wearing pink stuff.


21 posted on 09/18/2014 5:48:06 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: NYer

Roy Schoeman’s words bring tears of joy to my eyes.

For the same reason that a day in Heaven is like a thousand here, time does not exist in the same perspective in Heaven as here. When you remember an experience in Heaven it is always in the present, never in the past as a memory of an experience. You re-experience it in current time every time you pull it in.

It’s kind of like driving down the highway and looking at the moon beside you. You drive an hour and the moon is still right there beside you. That’s the way an experience of Heaven is when remembered here on earth.

In the early 1990’s I had many visions of what was coming for us. Due to the time distortion I thought they were going to happen almost immediately. I shared them with a few people at the time, as a warning. The visions are right now unfolding exactly as I saw them. Just that time really was distorted. The best advice is that only God can save us. That is the best preparation for these times we are entering that we can possibly make.


22 posted on 09/18/2014 5:51:27 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: markomalley

Why should people long for eternal life when government right here right now gives them “benefits” and they don’t have to stop sleeping with their “significant other” in order to qualify for them.


23 posted on 09/18/2014 5:55:54 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Joe 6-pack

In a nutshell!

**”...Teach me to realize that this world is passing, That my true future is the happiness of heaven, That life on earth is short, And the life to come eternal.

Help me to prepare for death With a proper fear of judgment, But a greater trust in your goodness. Lead me safely through death To the endless joy of heaven. Grant this through Christ our Lord. Amen.”**


24 posted on 09/18/2014 6:51:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oblomov

A person has to be free of sin to be in heaven. Totally pure.


25 posted on 09/18/2014 6:52:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Well, all you have to do is almost die and deal with a chronic, untreatable health condition, and that all changes pretty quickly.


26 posted on 09/18/2014 7:39:25 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Like it or not, we are ALL “tainted” to begin with. That is called sin.


27 posted on 09/18/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: oblomov

There are excellent books out there that talks about Heaven and people who have had NDE’s and who have lived to talked about it.


28 posted on 09/18/2014 7:52:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

The book, which I do recommend, “Heaven Is For Real” is one little boy’s experience of Heaven, even for a brief time.


29 posted on 09/18/2014 7:55:41 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

A related social illness is the reluctance to express a desire for sainthood in this life. Anyone making steps to holier life is confronted with a “holier than thou” epithet, for some strange reason thought to be derogatory.


30 posted on 09/18/2014 8:01:15 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: markomalley

I’m not impatient.


31 posted on 09/18/2014 8:02:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Biggirl
I recommend Dr. Jeffrey Long's book,

Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences"

In it he gives the scientific part about what happened to the patient, and then the patient's story of their NDE.

Fascinating!

32 posted on 09/18/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Several months ago, I had a dream. I haven’t spoken of it to many people, because I am unsure if what I dreamt was ... consistent with theology.

Unlike most of my other dreams, when I awoke (immediately afterward), it was as vivid as if I were still there, and even now, when I think of it. Um, yeah.

I’m not even sure how much I’d characterize it as one or three dreams. At least there were three phases.

The first part, I would only characterize as I (and others) were called up to meet Christ in the air. I remember rising up to meet the Lord and looking around and seeing some of my family members there too, among many others.

Then, we were all in His presence, and singing the Lord’s praises along with the angels. I can’t think of any way to describe it, except transcendent.

Finally, we were sent back to Earth to (reign?) (share the gospel?) (I’m not really sure, but something important).

And that’s why, to a certain extent, I have some difficulties with this dream. I am unsure that parts of it pass theological (or eschatological) muster, but at the same time, when I remember that part about being in the presence of the Lord, I can’t help but wish that I could be there soon.

Heaven is more than just a place.


33 posted on 09/18/2014 8:04:52 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: markomalley

Western Civilization is dying. It follows that Christianity, which is an integral part of our Civilization is dying as well. A great period of unbelief is upon us and shall become deeper. See the end of Classical Civilization of which most of its people did not believe in their formal religion.


34 posted on 09/18/2014 8:09:13 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: markomalley

Charles isn’t around many “suicidal Rapturists”, I guess. They want outta here!

Lol, I admit that I do too. Even so, come Lord Jesus!


35 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:12 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Salamander

“My prayers are pretty much just for mercy on my wretched soul.”

Oh happy man! HE is rich in mercy. RICH!!!


36 posted on 09/18/2014 8:57:10 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: markomalley
How Strange: Longing For Heaven Is Almost Never Expressed Today

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Heaven Is Best Left to the Imagination
The Last Four Things
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What does Heaven Cost? A Meditation on the Gospel for the 28th Sunday of the Year
Heaven For 21 Minutes: Local Couple Tells of Afterlife Experience [Protestant Sees Purgatory]
Radio Replies Second Volume - Heaven
HEAVEN: WHY ARE PEOPLE SO HAPPY THERE? [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
[Ecumenical] Lent through Eastertide - Divine Mercy Diary Exerpts: Heaven
What Is Heaven Really Like? [Ecumenical]

When Was the Last Time You Meditated on Heaven? That Long?! Try This.
The Sinner's Guide - Ch 9. The Ninth Motive for Practicing Virtue: The Thought of Heaven
Pope speaks with priests from his diocese about Heaven and Hell
STUNG BY MOST VENOMOUS OF CREATURES, MAN SAYS HE ENCOUNTERED 'LIGHT' OF LORD'
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 9: Heaven
Heaven and hell seem to be forgotten
Imagine there's a heaven
Limbo and the Hope of Salvation
Catholic Caucus: The Resurrection of the Dead
Resurrection Means a Glorious Existence

37 posted on 09/18/2014 9:09:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer; tired&retired; markomalley; Salvation; zot

“Why are we here?” Good question. My own musings are: 1) we are angels who wanted to try physical life on the planet God created for whatever reason they may have had; 2) souls that were created and have not gone to heave found a way into newly created bodies at conception as a means of finding a way back to heaven through God’s mercy; 3) God gave the gift of procreation and life to humanity, with each new soul/person what is created from that gift, He sent Jesus to lead us home to our Father in Heaven.

Are any of the above Doctrine/Dogma of any Christian Church, not that I’m aware of. Should they be? Not up to me to decide that. They are just my attempt to answer the question asked by the daughter in the tv show and also that I’ve had myself.


38 posted on 09/18/2014 9:13:53 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar; NYer; tired&retired; markomalley; Salvation; zot

And I forgot to state that I DO want to go to Heaven and not to have my soul stuck on this planet after my body dies.


39 posted on 09/18/2014 9:15:06 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: tired&retired

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.


40 posted on 09/18/2014 9:18:18 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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