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To: Ransomed
Very good point, Ransomed.

My own Catholic ancestors came to the USA from the Rheinpfalz Palatinate area of German in around 1871, fleeing from Bismarck's Kulturkampf. At that time, as I remember the history, the Popes condemned civil marriage (as was instituted by Bismarck) precisely because it was a radical redefiniton of marriage.

And considering the almost-universal acceptance of altered, contraceptive sex amongst the so-called heterosexuals, it seems as if nobody in prnciple or in practice actually rejects unnatural sex and unnatural marriage.

Only a very few "heteros" have marriages that are even natural, let alone sacramental. And grace builds on nature.

9 posted on 09/11/2014 9:45:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cardinal George is absolutely right but you will not see hardly any replies from protestants on his words. You know why? He’s right and most protestant posters on FR can’t give a Catholic credit for anything.


10 posted on 09/11/2014 9:50:44 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s the problem, it could be a radical redefinition or it could be pretty close. A lot of benefits to good civil involvement, on the other hand ‘gay marriage’ and who knows what else and punishments if you disagree. What do you think about those who have suggested the Church may have to divorce itself from state involvement in marriage?

FReegards


11 posted on 09/11/2014 10:03:31 AM PDT by Ransomed
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