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To: ScottfromNJ

**Romans 10:9 -**

Written to those already born again: “Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ. To all that be at Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints... Rms 1:6,7

Here is more of Romans:
“Know ye not, that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his DEATH? Therefore we are BURIED with him INTO DEATH..”

Now the ‘life’ part: “..that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the GLORY of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life”. Rms 6:3,4

**Paul: 1 Corinthians 1:17 “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”**

Paul’s ministry wasn’t a ‘John the baptist’ ministry. But, in his first letter to the Corinthians, who were already born again (”them that are sanctified in Jesus Christ, called to be saints..” 1:2), Paul promptly addressed those that were bragging about WHO baptized them, instead of WHO was crucified for them.

Paul DID baptize: “I thank God that I baptized none of you, BUT Crispus and Gaius; LEST any should say that I had baptized in MINE OWN NAME. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other”. 1Cor. 1:14-16

“I know not whether I baptized any other”?? That tells me Paul was a real busy man, and POSSIBLY baptized others in Corinth.

Let’s assume there was at least two that comprised the ‘household of Stephanas’, plus Cripus and Gaius, and POSSIBLY others. All baptized by Paul, who was sent NOT to baptize. So, Paul was disobedient to his calling.

That reasoning is another example of people twisting the scriptures to their own destruction, as Peter warned of.


289 posted on 09/09/2014 3:50:04 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

“Written to those already born again”

Incorrect. The specific scripture is clear and the intention is to inform those who are not saved about how to obtain salvation. Otherwise there would be no need to state “though shalt be saved” if it were targeted specifically to those who were already born again and salvation had already occurred.

In Mark 1:8 John talks about the baptism to come, not water baptism but baptism in the spirit through Christ - “I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”

“Know ye not, that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his DEATH? Therefore we are BURIED with him INTO DEATH..”

Again, and if you read through the rest of the chapter you’ll see that it’s spiritual baptism being discussed here with the risen Christ. The old water baptism was simply symbolic of the greater reality of the true baptism of the Holy Spirit. Water baptism makes for a nice ceremony, but it’s not what gets one saved.

“That reasoning is another example of people twisting the scriptures to their own destruction, as Peter warned of.”

Your denial of the meaning of Romans 10:9 comes to mind.


292 posted on 09/09/2014 8:44:24 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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