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To: AppyPappy; HarleyD

It sure does.

People are looking for gratifying the flesh and when we are told to worship and obey to gratify the flesh, it’s the wrong reason.

Then it’s not worship or obedience.

It’s trying to blackmail God or twist His arm to do stuff for us so we can live comfortable, pain free, happy lives. It’s manipulation. If I do *A*, then God has to do *B*.

It puts people in the position of using God.


96 posted on 08/31/2014 4:37:33 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I’m teaching a Sunday School lesson this AM using this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00-6OyXVA0M


97 posted on 08/31/2014 4:48:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: metmom; AppyPappy
People are looking for gratifying the flesh and when we are told to worship and obey to gratify the flesh, it’s the wrong reason.

After I posted my comment I thought about how it could be, legitimately, construed as doing it for the wrong reason. And, given that Victoria Osteen stated it, I certainly wouldn't put it past her that this was her intent. "If I worship God, then I'll be happy." So, in that sense you are both correct.

OTOH, I will still stand by my statement that every command in scripture is given to us that our joy may be full. That doesn't mean we will have riches or health or things of this earth. It means that we will have peace and happiness with God regardless of the situations around us. And God wants us to worship Him not so that we get something back. We worship God because it is for our benefit.

We will perish if we don't. This isn't a threat. It is a statement of fact. God is plainly telling us what will the results if we don't worship Him.

So, yes, worship is for our happiness and we should do it for our happiness.

98 posted on 08/31/2014 5:01:09 AM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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