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Fox News star jumps into 'gay' Christianity
http://mobile.wnd.com ^ | June 4, 2014 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 08/24/2014 7:06:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

The Fox News analyst who made headlines last December for saying she personally met Jesus is now entering the battle over homosexual relationships, suggesting U.S. Christians could support the concept.

“Could there be a future where most American Christians support same-sex relationships?” asks Kirsten Powers, a former atheist who went public with her conversion to Christianity last year.

“If so, it will be due to the emergence of conservative Christians who say orthodox believers can support life-long, monogamous gay relationships without undermining their commitment to biblical authority.”

In her column in USA Today, Powers mentions by name evangelical Matthew Vines, the homosexual author of the new book, “God and the Gay Christian,” as well as New Testament scholar James Brownson, who wrote the 2013 book “Bible, Gender, Sexuality.”

Powers says Brownson told her: “Male-male sex in the ancient world was episodic. It was mainly young boys with older men or male slaves and masters. It was not mutual. These were not relationships, they were not marriage and they were not meant to turn into marriage.”

Powers says the issue is not molding biblical teaching to satisfy a personal belief.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
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To: NKP_Vet
Nothing surprises me coming from this Obama apologist,who claims she's a Christian, but still supports the most pro-abortion and anti-Christian president in history.

Her stance isn't new: convenience and hypocrisy.
She CANNOT be a Christian if she supports abortion. That is a flat-out contradiction in terms.

21 posted on 08/24/2014 7:54:04 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: DuncanWaring
You may forgive her.
Will God?

God forgives ALL who come forth with TRUE contrition and penitence...and do the PENANCE. There IS a price to pay, always.

There is ALSO the promise assumption that said sin will not be repeated.

22 posted on 08/24/2014 7:56:32 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: capt. norm
Or as St. Francis said "It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,"

Yes, he did.
THAT is the "toughy" for me.

23 posted on 08/24/2014 7:57:27 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NKP_Vet

Kirstin Powere as an Atheist Has nothing in her heart , her head or the sounds that come out of her.
She is a loud clanging bell.


24 posted on 08/24/2014 7:57:29 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Nevadan

She may or may not be a baby Christian. I’ve known a number of converts whose conversion lasted 1-2 years until they decided they would rather follow Buddha or be New Age or follow some other fad.

“Some of the seed fell among the rocks where there was not much soil, and sprang up very quickly because there was no depth of earth. But when the sun rose it was scorched, and because it had no root, it withered away.” - Mark 4

I don’t expect the Holy Spirit to be able to instruct a new follower in EVERYTHING very quickly, but I think He is capable of keeping a new follower from promoting what is obviously Satanic and utterly unnatural.


25 posted on 08/24/2014 7:58:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom
“If so, it will be due to the emergence of conservative Christians who say orthodox believers can support life-long, monogamous gay relationships without undermining their commitment to biblical authority.”

This person is clearly insane

26 posted on 08/24/2014 8:02:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cloudmountain

That’s all certainly true.

Will she do those things?


27 posted on 08/24/2014 8:05:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Male-male sex in the ancient world was episodic. It was mainly young boys with older men or male slaves and masters”

This is such poor Scriptural understanding, that it defies imagination, but from a leftist it is understandable.

The Lord thus said. “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination”

This stands out among the Levitical commands, as it simply calls the act known as Sodomy, ‘an abomination’. Not ‘an abomination to you’, not ‘it is unclean to you’, it is simply ‘AN ABOMINATION’ period. There is no binding that relates this only to the Ancient Hebrews. It is a moral law for all times, and it carried NO caveats. It does not describe the age of the participants nor their mindset nor their other sexual practices. It simply condemns the act of ‘sexual’ relations (if you can call them that) between two males.

I find this idea of “well, it was written when homosexuality meant something different” to be as juvenile an argument as the old canard “the 2nd Amendment was for muskets!”

These are timeless teachings. DO NOT TAKE FROM THEM, NOR ADD TO THEM!!!


28 posted on 08/24/2014 8:06:34 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Mr Rogers

Scripture says “My people perish for lack of knowledge” and that learning the WORD of God is definately missing in Kristen’s life, because what we put in our spirit is what comes out.

Sadly, she already had a public platform when she asks Jesus into her heart, and she has yet to do the study necessary to mature her into a wiser person. Her husband is a Coptic Eqyptian (Christian) however, how much has he learned of the Bible. Believing, yes, wish, no...that confuses those looking for reality in the Christian’s life.


29 posted on 08/24/2014 8:10:24 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: NKP_Vet

“Star”?

That’s a bit of a stretch.

I would have gone with “stooge”.


30 posted on 08/24/2014 8:12:14 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: jerod

Me too!


31 posted on 08/24/2014 8:13:11 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Then one night in 2006, on a trip to Taiwan, I woke up in what felt like a strange cross between a dream and reality. Jesus came to me and said, “Here I am.” It felt so real. I didn’t know what to make of it. I called my boyfriend, but before I had time to tell him about it, he told me he had been praying the night before and felt we were supposed to break up. So we did. Honestly, while I was upset, I was more traumatized by Jesus visiting me...

...I didn’t know what to do, so I spoke with writer Eric Metaxas, whom I had met through my boyfriend and who had talked with me quite a bit about God. “You need to be in a Bible study,” he said. “And Kathy Keller’s Bible study is the one you need to be in.” I didn’t like the sound of that, but I was desperate...

...I remember walking into the Bible study. I had a knot in my stomach. In my mind, only weirdoes and zealots went to Bible studies. I don’t remember what was said that day. All I know is that when I left, everything had changed.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/november/fox-news-highly-reluctant-jesus-follower-kirsten-powers.html?paging=off

If she has had 8 years of following Christ, then she is old enough as a Christian to be responsible for knowing the difference between gross sin and not sin. In truth, most non-Christians do as well. On the issue of homosexuality, which her pastor opposes, the vast majority of humans for thousands of years have thought the truth was obvious.

So no, I won’t wait for her to outgrow this.


32 posted on 08/24/2014 8:14:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: lurk; Nevadan
We’ll have to trust her for her testimony of faith. Now she needs to be taught what’s in her Bible.

Wrong.

The same Bible you want to teach her about plainly declares that this is a sin, and an abomination as well in the eyes of our Lord.

If you are actively engaged in sin, or supporting, which according to the Bible makes you guilty of that sin, you cannot name the Name of Christ as your own. You are no longer born again, you have forsaken Christ. Either, as Paul stated, "Old things pass away, all things become new" to those that are in Christ Jesus or they don't. Either there is now no condemnation(active sinning) to those in Christ Jesus or there isn't.

Either the Bible is true, or it is not.
33 posted on 08/24/2014 8:14:28 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: NKP_Vet

Ah, the Church of Corinth


34 posted on 08/24/2014 8:19:44 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: TADSLOS
They say that in psychology cognitive dissonance is the mental stress felt by an individual who holds two or more contradictory ideas. It actually causes mental discomfort to attempt to hold the two ideas simultaneously. When a person resolves the stress (instead of the contradiction) post-modern liberalism is the result.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

I believe that what we are seeing here is a manifestation of theological cognitive dissonance. It is accomplished because she is a liberal first (with all that implies) and a Christian second.

35 posted on 08/24/2014 8:24:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mr Rogers

‘wish’ should have been ‘wise’ in my comment to you.


36 posted on 08/24/2014 8:29:02 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: NKP_Vet

Powers reflects emotive female religiosity

She was transformed from nothing to psuedo Christian by somewhat ambiguous Christian doctrine

Obviously she doesnt fully get it but is not totally lost either

Partially found

This newish good works and pass the grace theology that all views are respected

I would imagine her feminism which is atvthe roor of all this was formed by parental influence and secondary education


37 posted on 08/24/2014 8:29:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: RoosterRedux
I'll tell you how. They say that the homosexual behavior referred to in the Bible was non-marital, it was fornication (or worse, rape or pederast or prostitution) and therefore a sin, and therefore an abomination. But if you had a nice, gay, Christian couple who were married, loving, faithful, pray-toether-stay-together WEDDED SPOUSES, then it would't be fornication, it would be married love, and not a sin.

That's the delusion.

We've been discussing that in detail over here (LINK)

38 posted on 08/24/2014 8:30:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Most of us know more from being old, than from being told.)
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To: WhatNot

If someone is turned off by the Bible they certainly are not Christian. It cracks me up when someone says “I’m spiritual, but have no religion”. There is no such thing. Jesus tells us to go to Church. No man is an island.


39 posted on 08/24/2014 8:33:50 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: rockrr

I’m convinced Powers claims to be a Christian for street cred as a FNC talking head. She wears it like a politician wears an American flag lapel and uses her new found “faith” as a method to advance twisted liberal pretzel logic causes. Never trust a liberal.


40 posted on 08/24/2014 8:38:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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