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To: metmom; G Larry; MamaB; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
That's really ironic that a Catholic should make that comment with all the accusations of *hate* that are continually being lobbed at non-Catholics who are challenging Catholic presuppositions and doctrine.

FWIW, a RC pointed out to me years ago that for them defense of their church is defending their faith. We Evangelical Christians don't look at an institutional church this way. We see the RC institution in conflict with Scripture in so many ways and can't understand why when we point out the errors it's considered "hate". For the RC pointing out that error is attacking their faith and they are obliged to defend it to prove they are faithful and worthy.

It's when the RC leaves that environment and hears The Gospel that they see the errors, but it won't happen while they are still a part of that church.

437 posted on 07/27/2014 5:28:15 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

.....”We see the RC institution in conflict with Scripture in so many ways and can’t understand why when we point out the errors it’s considered “hate” For the RC pointing out that error is attacking their faith and they are obliged to defend it to prove they are faithful and worthy.”......

That’s because they have the cart before the horse......

If one understands the centrality of Jesus Christ, that HE is front and center to a Christian....and that the Church is a “reflection” of believers relationship to Him and thus a “Body of believers” then what they defend is their faith IN HIM....

It’s not necessary to defend an institute nor a church denomination, nor a church building.....You are a Christian who defends “Faith In Jesus Christ” and HE is accessible to all men no matter where they worship.


443 posted on 07/27/2014 5:39:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: wmfights

That’s the problem when your faith is your church.

For those of us whose faith is in Christ alone for salvation, the denominational affiliation is secondary. Therefore, pointing out error or inconsistencies in the denomination are not viewed either as an attack on our faith or us personally.

A person’s reaction to pointing out error in their church tells a lot about what they’re really trusting in.


446 posted on 07/27/2014 5:46:21 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: wmfights

Do you mean THIS Gospel?

“The bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world. (53) The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? (54) Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you: except you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. (55) He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood, hath everlasting life; and I will raise him up in the last day. (56) For my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed. (57) He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him. (58) As the living Father has sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eats me the same also shall live by me. (59) This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eats this bread shall live forever.”

(61) Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard,’ and who can hear it? (62) But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? (63) If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?.(64) It is the spirit that quickens: the flesh profits nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. (65) But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that, would betray him. (66) And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father. (67) After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him. (68) Then Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away?


461 posted on 07/27/2014 6:41:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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