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To: metmom

Ah...You’re catching on!

The Catholic Church IS where you find the truth, as there can be only one.

Matt 16:17-19, Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly ordered his disciples to tell no one that he was the Messiah.

The meaning of this passage does not seem to have been challenged by any writer until the rise of the sixteenth-century heresies. Since then a great variety of interpretations have been put forward by Protestant controversialists. These agree in little, save in the rejection of the plain sense of Christ’s words. Some Anglican controversy tends to the view that the reward promised to St. Peter consisted in the prominent part taken by him in the initial activities of the Church, but that he was never more than primus inter pares among the Apostles. It is manifest that this is quite insufficient as an explanation of the terms of Christ’s promise.


402 posted on 07/27/2014 3:47:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry
The Catholic Church IS where you find the truth, as there can be only one.

Wrong. Jesus said that He and the word are truth.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

He never said the CHURCH is truth.

Paul tells us that the church, the body of Christ, upholds the truth.

The thing that is doing the upholding is not the thing itself that is being upheld.

Nor is the church to guide people into truth. That is the work of the Holy Spirit.

John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.

407 posted on 07/27/2014 4:00:04 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: G Larry

Baloney!


414 posted on 07/27/2014 4:20:48 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: G Larry
Matt 16:17-19, Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly ordered his disciples to tell no one that he was the Messiah.

The meaning of this passage does not seem to have been challenged by any writer until the rise of the sixteenth-century heresies.

You need to check out some early church history. There was disagreement as to the meaning of this text.

462 posted on 07/27/2014 6:47:42 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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