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To: CynicalBear; Karl Spooner

Yes, that is an excellent video and historically accurate. The 4th Lateran Council of 1215AD was the beginning of the Catholic Church trying to eliminate people from leaving the Church due to the Crusades. Consequently the 4th Lateran Council established rules that only the priests could dispense God’s grace through the Eucharist and people had to go to Church to obtain God’s grace. Yet people still left and thus the Inquisition began.

Trying to justified flawed theology, the Church has all but abandoned the Word of God and replaced it with “tradition”. Yet they truly don’t even follow “tradition” since they have changed the rules over time. They justify this by saying they have become more enlightened.

People today have lost a sense of historical understanding. There were legitimate reasons Protestants left the Church. Now we’ve forgotten these differences and want to join with them.


182 posted on 07/26/2014 5:25:03 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: HarleyD
>>Now we’ve forgotten these differences and want to join with them.<<

Those who are truly born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit will not join them and those who God is calling will “come out of her”. It’s becoming clearer that it’s the Catholic Church that will lead the world into a one world religion. They are uniquely positioned to appeal to both Islam and apostate and weak Christians.

187 posted on 07/26/2014 6:01:08 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: HarleyD; CynicalBear; boatbums
Can you explain why the catholic church established so many laws, and layers of laws and do today....which actually for exceed any of the old testament writings.....what was there motive then as to now other than control of their membership?

It's clear rome operates as an institution and continues to form political allies today just as they did at that time....as if they were ‘a country’ unto itself...though I recognize it calls itself a state. Still one would then assume joining the catholic system is as if joining another country and allegiance to it.....

Additionally, I don't see a lot of difference between how it was then, regarding it's beliefs on anyone outside their organization, and as much how it sees itself operating in the world today....torture chambers aside. ........ Many threads on line, and as much discourse in public, reveals the same insistence that only thru their religious system can one find redemption in full.....and much anger ensues when this is questioned by those outside their institution.

188 posted on 07/26/2014 6:02:42 PM PDT by caww
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