[editor-surveyor]

>> "Sorry, but baptizō is baptism" << . Yes, in Greek, not in the original language, Hebrew. Mikva is not simply immersing one in water, it is a washing symbolically represented by lying in a river, headed upstream, to allow the water to wash your past sinful life away. And injecting John 3 into your reply is deceptive, since Yeshua used a word truly representing a birth of a new creature, rather that the same creature re-experiencing a birth. Yeshua is clearly not speaking of the Mikva, for which Nicodemus needed no help, but Peter clearly is. Or is that really all you understand? .

[daniel1212]

Sorry, but baptizō is baptism, and the renovation it signifies is clearly that of being begotten by the Spirit as a child of God in distinction from those "born after the flesh," and placed into the family of God and His kingdom as a new creation, for whom old things are passed away.

Yes, in Greek, not in the original language,

The Holy Spirit is the one who defines what baptism is in Greek, and what i said is what is taught.

And injecting John 3 into your reply is deceptive, since Yeshua used a word truly representing a birth of a new creature, rather that the same creature re-experiencing a birth.

Indeed, being born of the Spirit truly is the birth of a essentially "new creature," for whom "old things are passed away, and behold, all things are become new," (2Cor. 5:17) and which baptism signifies, death to the flesh and being raised as a new creature to walk in newness of life. (Rm. 6:4) Thanks be to God.

Yeshua is clearly not speaking of the Mikva,

Indeed, i never said Jn. 3:3-7 is speaking about baptism, but being born of the Spirit which baptism signifies, not "actual escape from the physical universe" which being born of the Spirit now is necessary for.

Your denial of this despite the evidence is one reason why your have rendered yourself unfit for further efforts at dialog.