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To: Iscool
I don't (first-hand) know of any priest doing wicked things with the cognizance of his superiors, and I've been around a long time with my eyes wide open.

There are notorious cases where this was happening. For instance Marcial Maciel, the superior of the Legion of Christ (LC) religious order, was a sociopath, an absolutely brilliant master deceiver, and pulled the wool over the eyes of Pope John Paul II for years, simply because JP2 couldn't believe that this outwardly devout, holy, wonderfully effective priest could be leading a double life and having sexual relations with both young men and women.

This is similar to the case of Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity, formerly of Scranton, PA, who was allowed to resurrect his discredited Society of St. John (SSJ) IN PARAGUAY after he had been defrocked and banned by Bishop Martino in Scranton for "unchastity, disobedience and outright rebellion," which made him “unfit for ministry.”

So how did he end up in Uruguay? Presumably because the Bishop of the Diocese of Ciudad del Este is unlawfully incardinating (sponsoring) him.

How long will it take to root him out of Uruguay, and the enabling Bishop as well? I suppose as long as it takes for Cardinal Muller over at CDF in Rome to collect evidence, get depositions, and come down hard. This is difficult when the Bishop is stalling, and none of it involves stuff that's illegal in secular law, such as: none of it involved minors, and sex between adult men is not criminalized in the secular legal code. Which means you can't go to the cops, and the Church itself of course does not have an enforceable power of subpoena.

(Where's the Roman Inquisition when you really need it???)

You don't hear about this kind of thing in organizations which do not have as many active whistleblowers as the Catholic Church does. How would I, for instance, know about the wo depravced priests mentioned above, except for whistleblowers who take it straight to the Internet?

The whole business with Maciel and Urrutigoity is gravely sinful and truly disturbing. But once again, it's not a case of "Catholics acting like Catholics," but a case of "sinners sinning."

Stuff like this happened repeatedly at the Rescue Mission in Asheville, NC (a Protestant charitable organization aiding poor people and addicts), staff I'd guess about 15, and it roiled around for years and, as far as I know, never made the press, not even in Asheville.

No surprising that the same stuff pops up in a Church spread across the 6 inhabited continents with a flock of 1.2 billion. What IS surprising, perhaps, is that it is quite a bit less prevalent in the Catholic Church than elsewhere.

277 posted on 07/14/2014 11:50:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Praise God from Whom all blessings flow, / Praise Him all people here below.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No surprising that the same stuff pops up in a Church spread across the 6 inhabited continents with a flock of 1.2 billion. What IS surprising, perhaps, is that it is quite a bit less prevalent in the Catholic Church than elsewhere.

I don't believe that...I not seen a bit of evidence to suggest that...Even your pope Francis says there is a gay lobby at the vatican...

286 posted on 07/14/2014 2:55:40 PM PDT by Iscool
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