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To: JPX2011
*Free will* is not mentioned anywhere in Scripture.

Scripture says that all people are slaves to sin until they are saved.

So, no, I do not believe that people have *free will* because no one is a free moral agent.

The second question makes no sense. Depending on extra Biblical revelation for truth is not the same as someone's interpretation of Scripture.

191 posted on 07/13/2014 5:28:16 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
So, no, I do not believe that people have *free will* because no one is a free moral agent.

So why are you trying to persuade people of anything?

192 posted on 07/13/2014 5:30:12 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: metmom
*Free will* is not mentioned anywhere in Scripture.

No?

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live. (Deuteronomy 30:19)

If you will, you can keep the commandments, and to act faithfully is a matter of your own choice. He has placed before you fire and water: stretch out your hand for whichever you wish. (Sirach 15:15-16).

So, no, I do not believe that people have *free will* because no one is a free moral agent.

Okay. And just so we understand each other, you do realize that if humanity lacks moral agency then anyone with a calling to the priesthood is therefore predestined to do so by God since to serve God is a moral choice, It certainly doesn't fall under the rubric of free choice (Coke vs. Pepsi). Ergo the Catholic Church is obligated to accept all applications for entry into the priesthood with no exceptions under the Calvinistic understanding of agency.

The second question makes no sense. Depending on extra Biblical revelation for truth is not the same as someone's interpretation of Scripture.

Sure it is. For this construct assumes that an individual's interpretation of scripture is devoid of any extrabiblical influence. That Sacred Scripture is self-interpreting. Which as we can see from the last 500 years of history it is not.

196 posted on 07/13/2014 5:42:09 PM PDT by JPX2011
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