Posted on 07/06/2014 6:00:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Parliament forces”
This issue has always been about coercion, not “rights”.
I think its Norway where upper level church officials are appointed by government.
I asked some homosexuals or collectivists that were for homosexual marriage, “Why do homosexuals have more rights than the rest of us?”
They responded in the usual manner.
So I clarified the question.
I asked,
“Why do two percent of the population have the right to shove acceptance of their behaviour down the other 98%’s throat?”
Not one would respond.
Is it time for the true church to move toward house churches like communist China?
As strong as that argument is, it’s actually weaker than saying: My God does not allow me to.
It is no longer a Church.
It was strong enough to shut them all up!
Liberals reminds me of namby pamby parents.
Little Johnny wants to play with big brother Jamey’s toys but Jamey says no because Johnny breaks very toy he plays with.
Well mommy forces Jamey to let Johnny play with his toys because she doesn’t want to hear Johnny whine all day about how mean Jamey is and she deludes herself in to believing she is right because Jamey needs to learn to share and be nice.
The fact that Jamey is perfectly within his rights and Johnny does not have a right to Jamey’s toys simply does not enter in to her mind.
The Church has a right to set its rules and enforce them amongst its congregation. No one is forced to be a member of the Church and they can quit any time. If the Church’s rule do not suit you leave.
King Henry VIII started the Church of England to force his liberal views on sex and marriage in the 1500’s and he created enough conflict in England to drive dissenters into the Western Hemisphere where some of them came up with a Constitution that prohibits such an “establishment of religion”
That’s the real story of your First Amendment, not to be confused with the rewrite started by Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black in the 1940’s “Everson” decision about a “separation of church and state.”
Interestingly, I read that gays are now being coerced by the companies they work for to “marry,” even if they are opposed to it ( there are actually many gays who don’t like the idea). It’s all about coercion and control.
RE: They responded in the usual manner.
I’d really like to know what their usual response is....
RE: where upper level church officials are appointed by government.
Aren’t chaplains in our military essentially appointed by our government?
So, if the US military recognizes same-sex marriage, what do you think will be the next step in this moral “evolution”?
You may be on to something significant. What we just read in this article is coming soon to a parish near you. The surest way to avoid being under dictates of our now predominantly socialist liberal government may be to take inspiration from Pope Francis and make your church small. In fact, it may be better to give up tax exempt status if that means we can make and keep our own rules. Its time to give this serious consideration. Make ourselves not in debt to the government except as any for profit entity. We will continue to use local police and firemen as needed, as entitled to all who pay municipal and ad valorem taxes.
There will be “A Time for Choosing”, to echo Ronald Reagan’s splendid speech about freedom, which should be read every Fourth of July.
As Christians, our choice will be the same as it was for the Israelites in Joshua’s day: “Choose you this day whom you will serve.….But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” (Joshua 24:15)
Name calling and ad hominem attacks.
Ping for later
That’s just what I was thinking. Give up the church property, but then again, isn’t that what this is all about . . . taking possession of that valuable real estate (in addition to forcing people to do something against their conscience)?
Could you find that and post a link? I don't doubt it's true, I'd just like to have a link to show others.
I know a gay guy who hates the SSM movement. He says, "Look, it took me 20 years to get my mother to stop nagging me to find the "right woman" and convince her that I really am gay. And now she's all in my face again, like, "Gay? Fine. So why aren't you married?"
There were even gays demonstrating against gay marriage at that huge "Manif Pour Tous" demonstration in Gay Paree last year (2 yeas ago?) --- with a banner that said "Nous sommes plus gai sans mariage": "We're gayer without marriage."
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