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To: Bryanw92
I'm confused. You left a Methodist congregation, not because you disagree with the pastor, who is a conservative/evangelical, but because of stuff that happened outside of your home church at Annual Conference?

In the end, does any of the stuff at FL AC noticeably impact what's going on in your local congregation? You might find my friend Chad Holtz's reasoning for why he stays in the UMC insightful.

23 posted on 07/05/2014 7:51:24 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian

>>I’m confused. You left a Methodist congregation, not because you disagree with the pastor, who is a conservative/evangelical, but because of stuff that happened outside of your home church at Annual Conference?

A pastor is just a person passing through the life of a church. The five pastors prior to him were fully-involved Progressives. They would preach the “Jesus was the first Socialist” sermons from our pulpit. I accepted that because the Progressive movement was not winning in America then. Today, things are different. The Progs are winning and I am not supporting them at any level anymore. Our next pastor could easily be a rainbow stole wearing Progressive who hints at denying the supernatural power of God and the deity of Christ (like our previous pastor).

>>In the end, does any of the stuff at FL AC noticeably impact what’s going on in your local congregation? You might find my friend Chad Holtz’s reasoning for why he stays in the UMC insightful.

There are conservative Wesleyan denominations. There are non-denoms with Wesleyan theology. God does not live exclusively in the UMC.

But, I’m actually coming to realize that the things that made Wesleyanism so wonderful in a Christian nation are the things that make it too weak to survive a post-Christian nation. I find it hard to believe that many Progressives have received Prevenient Grace. Perhaps Calvin was right when speaking of a post-Christian nation.

I’ll read Holtz’ article and comment later on that.


26 posted on 07/05/2014 8:05:51 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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