Posted on 07/01/2014 4:20:15 PM PDT by NYer
I haven’t heard of any burning at the stake or Inquisitions lately, have you? Some of our priests engaged in horrific rapes of children. This has gone on for centuries but we no longer tolerate it, do we? We used to preach that all the Jews and protestants and other non-Catholics go straight to hell. We don’t preach that anymore, do we?
We are a work in progress but yes we have achieved significant areas of enlightenment as a perfect faith run on this earth by humans. I am not endorsing or condemning the Pope on his numerous opinions. But I think it is vitally important as a faith to ask ourselves - what is motivating him?
1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
I haven’t heard of any burning at the stake or Inquisitions lately, have you? Some of our priests engaged in horrific rapes of children. This has gone on for centuries but we no longer tolerate it, do we? We used to preach that all the Jews and protestants and other non-Catholics go straight to hell. We don’t preach that anymore, do we?
We are a work in progress but yes we have achieved significant areas of enlightenment as a perfect faith run on this earth by humans. I am not endorsing or condemning the Pope on his numerous opinions. But I think it is vitally important as a faith to ask ourselves - what is motivating him?
1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
I'd love to hear how this is different from praying to Mary or venerating relics, etc.
**New Age practices are particularly dangerous.**
I read a couple of books (I believe) by Perretti. Scary!
The non-Christian oracles can tell us some truths, but they will tell us some lies as well. And there’s no way of knowing which is which.
It doesn’t work that way, Tal. God can cause things other than God to be.
If you try to philosophize through it, you will go crazy. The essential issue is that God can do more than you can and so you can’t figure it all out and this is EXPECTED.
If you BELIEVE then you find out yes it is good and yes it makes sense.
These were novels intended to dramatize how the God of the bible (with His host) and evil spirits energizing the New Age phenomena “might” interact, based on things that have been documented. Take it with a grain of salt. The drama is “sanctified imagination” and might not be accurate.
Yes, I realized that, but they were still scary.
It’s certainly possible to deliberately invoke demons, thinking them to be something else (though still not God).
So believing that everything is part of the infinite God, is somehow limiting to the concept of the infinite God?
Infinite is infinite. In addition, why would anyone cognize a need that something exist outside of God at all? Why "require" such a thing for a philosophy? If you have God be infinite, isn't that enough, since it encompases everything?
The way I see it, requiring something to be "outside" of the infinite God is to not really believe in the infinite God. Is to find the infinitude of God somehow "lacking," and therefore requiring something else. So for me, the faith part of this is precisely that nothing is outside of God - in other words, that God truly is infinite.
In addition, once you start throwing out logic, where do you stop? It's not that faith isn't necessary, but only where terms or ideas fail. And the term and idea of infinity doesn't fail! Infinity is without limit, and so perfectly represents the limitlessness of the power of God. I simply see no need for even trying to get beyond that, since it is both conceiveable and inconceivable at the same time, and so, for me, fully satisfies the "scale" of the concept of "God."
Interesting take on all this.
Even when the mass is done in English, it is still giving God GLORY. Latin is in truth a very beautiful language. I have a number of Gregorian chants on my iPad, along with Dylan and U2.
I do not live near a Catholic Church that has the Latin chanting or TLM, but if a hymm is done in English and is beautiful, it can do.
Much better to do the “ Jesus Prayer” instead.
If people still think there is such a thing called “ the enemy”.
Most of the people getting the vapors over yoga are too fat and lazy to last 5 minutes doing the exercise so it’s really not an issue.
Yoga is an invention of a Brit in the 1950s, applying Hindu prayer to calisthenics. Leave out the Hindu prayer, and it’s simply calisthenics. But then call it calisthenics.
We preached what?
Who is we?
I never heard anyone in the Catholic Church preach the things you are talking about.
I don’t know who ‘we’ is/are
Burning at the stake wha?
I know that the church didn’t rape anyone. Misguided evil people calling themselves catholic do. Same as misguided people calling themselves catholic claim that there is no more evil and yoga is fine
I don’t play philosophical games with God. He outwits me every single solitary time I try.
All I can say is that the bible assertions are not nonsense. They are self consistent. They require an “implementation domain” that transcends our mortal coil, but cannot be shown wrong by any kind of reductio ad absurdam.
And the main question is not even “what?” but “who?” The “what” is there because of the “who.” Existence doesn’t just exist for the sake of existing. It’s got a purpose.
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