Posted on 06/27/2014 10:34:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Just want to note that this is a working draft and not the final document.
Major Vatican Document Says Unjust Discrimination Against Gay People Should Be Avoided
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So. If we are to adhere to the Bible and follow what it says; we will be guilty of Unjust Discrimination.
If God does indeed send filthy Sodomites to Hell; He too is guilty of Unjust Discrimination.
Got it.
I have nothing against a talented gay artist painting the Sistine Chapel, as an example, just as long as he has no contact with children.
PFL
The CCC has always said this. Does not mean the Catholic Church condones the act of homosexuality and or will endorse homo “marriage”. That will never happen as long as there’s a Bible. The word of God does not change.
Trying to figure what this really means. Wouldn't the most compassionate response be to tell these couples that they need to separate and follow Church teaching and remain celibate?
Or are we talking about more of this post VII "pastoral and compassionate" BS?
The Roman "church" does not represent YHvH's WORD !shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I have no problem with this. Gay people should not be executed, or beaten or jailed for being gay. Whatever they do with another consenting adult in their bedroom is their business — I’m not their priest or minister so their souls are not my responsibility. But, of course, that’s not where we are today in America. Today, we have a gay agenda that forces acceptance on everyone at the risk of financial ruin. That I disagree with.
...Do they mean other than the “discrimination” that Scripture condemns them to hell unless they repent??? God has already discriminated against them. Big time.
I am so mad I could spit.
We are going through a worldwide systematic campaign of legitimacy of the sin of Sodom, and the response to it is.....warning people against “unjust” discriminating against the Sodomites. LIKE THAT’S THE BIG FLIPPING PROBLEM HERE.
VATICANISTI.....siete tutti scemi. SCEMI. Se non volete difendere la fede, ANDATE TUTTI A CASA e non ci cimentare con queste scemenze. Porco!
I’ll apologize to you English speakers for the yelling. The Italian speakers deserve every bit of it.
You mean when the gays' avoid their unjust defiance of God?
Don't spout that libertarian nonsense. That is the first step to all the rest.
On second reading looks like that line that was pulled out of a wider ranging document, and that the actual document did indeed teach what it was supposed to.
Ok Claud...you got worked up over some idiot American’s spin. calm down.
Happy feast of the Sacred Heart all! :)
B.S. The recent statements are leaning so far in the direction of accommodation and acceptance the ship is going to capsize. By capsize I mean the post-conciliar newchurch will be exposed as the fraud it is for everyone to see.
I agree with excluding the execution part, and severe beatings. But incarceration and extended water board sessions: highly recommended (for homo behavior, not orientation).
Homosexual unions will never be accepted by the church. This will be made specifically clear in October. Homosexual adoptions will never be accepted. This will also be made clear. As a matter of fact discussions of homosexuals will be a very small part of the council on the family. In the questionare that was sent to my parish the end of last year, and the one my wife and I filled out, was very generic, and didn’t mention homosexuals one way of the other.
This looks like another straddle from the Vatican.
Why doesn’t the Vatican simply say what Jesus said to the prostitute?
Bishop against bishop, priest against priest. You will see a split whereby liberal parishes become extremely accommodating to homosexual couples, distributing Communion without a hint of disapproval. They will be told not to worry, that the Mercy of Christ is so great that this merely technical departure from Church teaching will be forgiven; rainbow party at 6 Tuesday bring your friends.
What is so sacrosanct about "consent"? It is, you realize, a Western, Judeo-Christian social construct promulgated by privileged white men, as easily (and inevitably!) discarded as all other such reactionary inhibitions, such as chastity, fidelity, marriage, heteronormativity, etc.
Consenting, indeed.
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