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The Coming Collapse of the PC(USA)
The Aquila Report ^ | 6-22-14 | Jeff Gising

Posted on 06/22/2014 1:42:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan

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Yet the liberals will keep arguing that it needs to get even more liberal.
1 posted on 06/22/2014 1:42:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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This is a supposedly Protestant denomination. And 45% of pastors disagree that, “only followers of Jesus Christ can be saved?” That's pretty outrageous.

We need to remember:


3 posted on 06/22/2014 1:51:48 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: ReformationFan

PCUSA became CPUSA


4 posted on 06/22/2014 1:51:52 PM PDT by Viennacon
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This is the most important sentence:

Only 30% of members and 33% of ruling elders favored this. Only 44% of pastors favored it, and 56% of specialized ministers favored it."

5 posted on 06/22/2014 1:53:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Yet, the denomination seems to be incapable of taking the drastic steps required to alter this possible future. In the end, this is a failure both of theological integrity and of organizational leadership.

Please refer to my reply #3.

7 posted on 06/22/2014 1:54:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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Exactly!


8 posted on 06/22/2014 1:56:02 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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The church in question is merely reflecting the ongoing collapse in Western Civilization; i.e. childlessness leading to failure to replenish, failure to nourish exclusiveness with its feelings of we are the bright ones, the glorious ones; accepting and embracing Sodomy which God has declared an abomination; trying to be “Relevant,” etc. etc.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 1:58:09 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I just got home from church, (member of PSUSA) At the social time after church I had a chance to talk to our minister. He said; 'When I became a minister he had to Pledge he would uphold the Gospel according to God. I will not change my pledge no matter what the GA dictates. There will be no changes while I am here. Our Iranian minister gave the service which was 'Blessed is the Peacemaker', as thousands of Christians are prosecuted today. I felt rather embarrassed for the PHUSA since I know what Iranians feel about homosexuality and same sex marriage which he gave reference to in his sermon. He said we live in the New Age of Babylon. (can't understand what he met by that.)
10 posted on 06/22/2014 2:02:42 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: F15Eagle

Olsteen said it.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 2:08:06 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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Westminster Confessions (Reformed) I think that John Knox might be upset.
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Chapter XXIV

Of Marriage and Divorce

I. Marriage is to be between one man and one woman: neither is it lawful for any man to have more than one wife, nor for any woman to have more than one husband, at the same time.[1]

II. Marriage was ordained for the mutual help of husband and wife,[2] for the increase of mankind with a legitimate issue, and of the Church with an holy seed;[3] and for preventing of uncleanness.[4]

III. It is lawful for all sorts of people to marry, who are able with judgment to give their consent.[5] Yet it is the duty of Christians to marry only in the Lord.[6] And therefore such as profess the true reformed religion should not marry with infidels, papists, or other idolaters: neither should such as are godly be unequally yoked, by marrying with such as are notoriously wicked in their life, or maintain damnable heresies.[7]

IV. Marriage ought not to be within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity forbidden by the Word.[8] Nor can such incestuous marriages ever be made lawful by any law of man or consent of parties, so as those persons may live together as man and wife.[9] The man may not marry any of his wife's kindred, nearer in blood then he may of his own: nor the woman of her husband's kindred, nearer in blood than of her own.[10]

V. Adultery or fornication committed after a contract, being detected before marriage, gives just occasion to the innocent party to dissolve that contract.[11] In the case of adultery after marriage, it is lawful for the innocent party to sue out a divorce and, after the divorce,[12] to marry another, as if the offending party were dead.[13]

VI. Although the corruption of man be such as is apt to study arguments unduly to put asunder those whom God has joined together in marriage: yet, nothing but adultery, or such wilful desertion as can no way be remedied by the Church, or civil magistrate, is cause sufficient of dissolving the bond of marriage:[14] wherein, a public and orderly course of proceeding is to be observed; and the persons concerned in it not left to their own wills, and discretion, in their own case.[15]

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13 posted on 06/22/2014 2:56:10 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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True. There is a sort of virus making the rounds in protestant churches leading alleged pastors to opine that basically "God can do whatever He wants to, so if he wants to save hindus or moslems or whoever, He can."

Apparently they do not believe or trust the Word of God as delivered by Jesus Christ.

14 posted on 06/22/2014 3:30:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I was puzzled by the our Persian minster saying we are living in the new age of Babylon. Was he referring to the corruption of the churches, including PCUSA, the country or the killing of thousands of Christians in the middle east?


16 posted on 06/22/2014 5:02:53 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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“a new age” doesn’t have a geographic context


17 posted on 06/22/2014 5:04:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: hinckley buzzard
True. There is a sort of virus making the rounds in protestant churches leading alleged pastors to opine that basically "God can do whatever He wants to, so if he wants to save hindus or moslems or whoever, He can." Apparently they do not believe or trust the Word of God as delivered by Jesus Christ.

one should be more than a little careful in condemning those who have no opportunity to experience the truths of Christianity.....we believe that Christianity is the true path to Heaven....there are millions who have no knowledge of that path.....God is a whole lot more merciful than to condemn them all to hell....

18 posted on 06/22/2014 7:37:01 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: F15Eagle

Yup.

There is also a VERY large denomination that says the same thing.


19 posted on 06/22/2014 7:39:07 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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If that’s the case Jesus really didn’t need to die on a cross, now did He?


20 posted on 06/22/2014 7:40:25 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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