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To: fishtank

Moral failure is what “others” have... Must we always remind folks what King David did? Although I am not a Gothard fan, these anti-Gothard groups are vindictive creeps. Not excepting Dr. Shultz...


8 posted on 06/21/2014 11:58:17 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

There were DOCTRINAL issues of scripture twisting that Gothard REFUSED to listen to for years and years and years, yet his followers swept everything under the rug.

By the way, if you read all the Bible, you’ll see that David did not go away unscathed.


10 posted on 06/21/2014 12:01:08 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Tzfat
Moral failure is what “others” have... Must we always remind folks what King David did? Although I am not a Gothard fan, these anti-Gothard groups are vindictive creeps. Not excepting Dr. Shultz...

The point that you raise stems from a concern that all Christians should have, and which should be cause for deep soul searching and prayerful consideration before taking action against a leader. In the case of Bill Gothard, I believe that his many accusers delayed for years and bent themselves into pretzels giving Gothard the benefit of doubt. And as time passed, they discovered many others who had suffered similar abuse and intimidation at the hands of Bill Gothard and his brother. Despite countless attempts to confront Bill Gothard in accordance with Matthew 18, Gothard arrogantly refused to hear them and even retaliated against them.

In the end, the difference between King David and Bill Gothard is the opposite response of each when rebuked. David confessed to Nathan, "I have sinned against The Lord" - and and David repented. Bill Gothard claims that his accusers have sinned against him, and he refuses to repent.

19 posted on 06/21/2014 1:00:37 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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