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To: NKP_Vet

100% "debunked"?

Not quite.

Calling the story a "hoax" is error itself.

The previous headlines were misleading and seeming greatly exaggerated -- but -- there are still grounds for considering that what was opened up by a pair of witnesses in 1975, and then further witnessed by many others -- including a Catholic priest who said prayers over the bones before the location was backfilled --- was once quite possibly used as a septic tank, as early maps do indicate there was once a sewage tank very near to where the still-living witness says he and another moved a a flat stone approximately 2 ft X 4 ft and saw bones (and skulls) of many children.

The idea that an old and likely to have been disused "septic tank" for receptacle of some number of bodies of those who died while at that particular "mother and baby home" has been far from "debunked" or disproved, for there is still much which has not been clarified, although it is possible that there was some other underground structure or hollow as it were, that was utilized.

For all we know there could have been root cellar there also, along with a septic tank not too far away, as in within that same walled area, which was then used by the nuns as place to of crypt for these "unbaptized" babies who could not be buried in otherwise "Catholic" cemeteries. BOTH some other underground area, AND the old sewage tank (as indicated on some maps as having been there -- along with old timer's among the locals agreeing that there had always been talk og one being at that portion of the property) could have at different times been used as "crypt".

What is entirely lacking (speaking of "truth") is any proof whatsoever that there was at any time a purpose-built burial crypt at the location or on the property at all.

What was found in 2012 were graves accidentally uncovered along North side perimeter of the property which were then more formally investigated in archeological fashion and dated to the "work house" days of the mid-to-later 19th century.

So far --- I'm not impressed on iota that YOU know "truth" concerning the whole affair, for that has yet to be fully established, which makes it impossible for you to speak of "truth", in this regard.

I'm not going to get in to all the different articles I myself have read concerning the issue, but the one link which you provided as some evidence of debunking -- falls far short of doing you what you suggest that it does, for it relies upon conjecture rather than proof --- even more so than the local woman Corless who grew up in that town -- and had attended school with some of these so-called "Home Babies" who were very much indeed looked down upon by most all -- including the nuns themselves, according to her testimony and that which can otherwise be pieced together.

Those poor unfortunate souls born to mothers out of wedlock were considered "dirty" by the culture and society in Ireland of that era, and it's attitudes at that time and place towards women having children outside of marriage -- with THAT attitude spilling over onto the otherwise innocent children themselves, regardless of any of the actual "care" given them by those same nuns.

217 posted on 06/16/2014 12:18:59 PM PDT by BlueDragon (the wicked flee when none pursueth, but the righteous...are as bold as a lion)
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To: BlueDragon
as place to of crypt for these "unbaptized" babies who could not be buried in otherwise "Catholic" cemeteries.

Once again a simple question: How do you know they were unbaptized? Seriously How do you and every other prot here "know" this?

My wife took her nursing degree at a Catholic hospital in upstate New York. During her Pedes rotation there was a child that died shortly after birth, but that child received a baptism from the nuns in attendance. I was also baptized at birth due to complications, there is no written record of that baptism but my father witnessed it.

When one of my nieces was born she was a still birth but the priest told my sister my niece could receive a Christian burial in a Catholic cemetery because of baptism of desire.

So please tell me how can you all be so gosh darn sure they weren't baptized?

218 posted on 06/16/2014 12:47:54 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: BlueDragon

And when no else wanted them these nuns took them in and cared for them. And the ones that died were properly buried. The septic tank story is a bunch of garbage and only the most die-hard Catholic-haters would believe a word of it.


219 posted on 06/16/2014 1:16:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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