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To: RoosterRedux
1 Peter 3:18-22

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

in ]which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison,

who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water.

Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

15 posted on 06/15/2014 1:08:29 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
Thx Bryan.

Here's a blurb which explains what I am thinking better than I can...

While Peter is connecting baptism with salvation, it is not the act of being baptized that he is referring to (not the removal of dirt from the flesh). Being immersed in water does nothing but wash away dirt. What Peter is referring to is what baptism represents, which is what saves us (an appeal to God for a good conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ). In other words, Peter is simply connecting baptism with belief. It is not the getting-wet part that saves but is the “appeal to God for a clean conscience” which is signified by baptism, that saves us. The appeal to God always comes first. First belief and repentance, then we are baptized to publicly identify ourselves with Christ.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html#ixzz34jzwc149


25 posted on 06/15/2014 1:17:13 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: Bryan24; RoosterRedux

Please notice what Peter wrote:

“...when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience...”

The water of baptism saved Noah how? From death? On the contrary, without the Ark the water would have killed Noah. So in what sense did the Flood ‘save’ Noah?

It saved him out of (separated him) from the surrounding evil world, as Peter preached in Acts 2:

“And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”

Salvation has two meanings: salvation from the effect of our sin (justification) and salvation from the surrounding evil world (sanctification). Baptism does not justify us, but it DOES separate us from the “crooked generation” in which we live - as Peter pointed out twice.

Since God cannot sanctify someone who has not been justified, water baptism has no meaning for a baby. The child will eventually need to “Repent and believe” - or die in his sin.


59 posted on 06/15/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Left wing. Right wing. One buzzard.)
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To: Bryan24
Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

I can't say that you use a perverted scripture out of deceit or are just ignorantly following what your handlers tell you...

Here's the real verse...

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

This is pretty much the same verse that your religion used for over a thousand years in the Douay-Rheims bible, authored by the very Catholic Jerome...

You might want to ask them why they perverted the scriptures...Apparently to teach false doctrine...

133 posted on 06/15/2014 6:48:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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