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To: cloudmountain

My pain? The destruction of America of the last 40 years, the erasing of our culture, history, communities , and national identity, and of conservatism and traditional America is a loss to most conservatives, not just me.

If we can convert those democrat voting Catholic Hispanic immigrants to pro-life voting Evangelicals then we can salvage something of our future.


52 posted on 06/16/2014 9:19:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
If you convert those Democratic voting Catholics to Evangelicals what makes you think they won't still vote their race before their new-found religion?

After all your Black evangelicals managed to vote for Obama at a 95% rate! Maybe it's not the political secret sauce you claim it is.

Meanwhile White Catholics voted for Romney at a 59% rate, true not as high as the 69% rate for White Protestants, but still a good majority.

Pew: How the faithful voted

53 posted on 06/16/2014 12:01:34 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: ansel12
If we can convert those democrat voting Catholic Hispanic immigrants to pro-life voting Evangelicals then we can salvage something of our future.

It's as simple as the Democrats promise them something for nothing. The GOP thinks people should WORK for what they want.

"democrat voting Catholic Hispanic immigrants"

1. Hispanic immigrants have to be Americans to vote. THAT takes five years of living here, legally, to even BECOME an American. I hope you aren't assuming that all Mexicans who work here WANT to be Americans. They don't.
What they make here for three months work they can live on for the other nine months in Mexico.

2. THEN they have to REGISTER to vote. Too many American-born folks aren't EVEN registered to vote!

3. To vote folks have to read and write English to register and then to vote.
Foreigners then have to take the American citizenship test, which is in English.
Most Hispanic immigrants don't speak, read or write English very well, if at all. They get jobs that Americans won't do and they do it for peanuts. THAT'S why they get jobs.
Central Americans can't get to the USA because they would have to go through Mexico.
Mexico hands out BROCHURES on how to SNEAK into the USA but their SOUTHERN border would do the former Commies PROUD. NO one from Central American gets into Mexico via their southern border.

4. Just because they are Catholic doesn't mean that they are practicing Catholics, pro- or anti-life. You are relegating ALL of them to one, single mindset. They don't all fit into your tight pegging system...they are as eclectic as any other people.

5. From what I know of Mexicans, they are a fairly conservative people, being from a country with almost no middle class. But then, my father was Mexican, I have dozens of Mexican relatives (in D.F.) and I lived and worked (on a VERY expensive worker visa paid for by American Express' language center) in Mexico City for two years. So what do I know?

My Mexican father didn't have to serve in WWII because he was still a foreigner and was too old (in his 30's). But he enlisted anyway because of his love for his adopted country, went to North Africa (Rommel), got malaria, didn't die, ended up in Italy...and came home.

His surname was a French name as the French family immigrated to Mexico during the French Revolution. (My maiden name is that same FRENCH name.)
From Google: The second French intervention in Mexico (Spanish: Segunda intervención francesa en México), also known as the Maximilian Affair, Mexican Adventure, the War of the French Intervention, the Franco-Mexican War or the Second Franco-Mexican War, was an invasion of Mexico by the Second French Empire, supported in the beginning by the United Kingdom and Spain.

The French had a big part in Mexico.
Side note: the word "mariachi"--the guys who play and sing at festivities came from the FRENCH word, Mariage, that is, MARRIAGE.
French nuns invented "mole" sauce, pronounced MO-LAY. It's a wonderful mixture of chocolate (which the New World had all along) and chiles. Delightful flavor.

My daddy brought us up as 100% American. Why wouldn't he?

I know all my Mexican relatives and they have no ONE mindset. Most Mexicans love their country and want to live, marry, have children and die there. They just don't like being so DESPERATELY poor.
- Mexico has no welfare system.
- Mexico has only a vestige of a middle class. It used to have NO middle class, so I suppose that Mexico has progressed somewhat, especially compared to its poorer southern neighbors.
- There IS a "social security" but it is worthless.
- Their "pensions" are a joke.
- People HAVE to depend SOLELY on their near and extended families.
***The Central Americans call Mexico the "Giant of the north." Poverty is relative.

Mexico, called the GIANT of the NORTH by the even poorer Central Americans (I visited there too.), is poor (by our standards) because of what I call the FOUR "P's."
Politics--corrupt as the day is long
Poverty--too widespread and way POORER than any of our poorest of the poor.
Police--corrupt as the day is long. They pay their police almost nothing and the poor fools have to get their money by being as big a crook as their President.
Pollution--it IS a big better. When I lived there in the early 1970's no one ever saw the peaks of their two volcanoes, Popocatepetl and Ixtaccihuatl. NOW, both volcanoes are visible as the government FORCED in the new smog laws for ALL vehicles and for industry.

55 posted on 06/16/2014 2:42:21 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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