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Concerning the obsession for photos at Liturgies – A Consideration of a Liturgical and Pastoral...
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 6/9/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/10/2014 1:38:38 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Vermont Lt

Interesting point.


21 posted on 06/10/2014 9:40:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: Vermont Lt

I would bet a lot of people never even look at their billions of digital shots again.

Sure, there’s the Instagram folks or people who process them in various ways, but the great majority of people holding their cameras up at mass are probably never going to look at them, show them to anyone or do anything but store them in the cloud until they need to delete them to make room for more.

What people are looking for is something immediate.

I think if professional photographs could be obtained on the spot - that is, sent immediately after the event to the buyer’s email or phone - that would make them more attractive. And, of course, if churches started telling people not to take photos during the mass, it would make it the only option!


22 posted on 06/10/2014 9:43:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: Biggirl
Could it be because of the desire for the memories of that special day.

28 Therefore, receiving an immoveable kingdom, we have grace: whereby let us serve, pleasing God, with fear and reverence.

Taking pictures instead of praying would seem to negate the "fear and reverence". Plenty of "memories of that special day" can be photographed before and after the sacred ceremony.

23 posted on 06/10/2014 9:55:21 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Jeff Chandler

I hear you. It’s just a photography dream, never realized. Richard Avedon was my studio hero.


24 posted on 06/10/2014 10:02:44 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: BlatherNaut

Can you please cite the verse please. Thank-you.


25 posted on 06/10/2014 10:27:24 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: avenir

Do you have any info about Richard Avedon, since I also enjoy taking pictures myself.


26 posted on 06/10/2014 10:28:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: BlatherNaut

......Yet “perfect love casts out ALL FEAR.”


27 posted on 06/10/2014 10:33:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley
I have seen it with tourists as well. I live just up the street from the US Capitol and it is fascinating to watch the tourists go by on the buses. Many of them are so busy taking a picture of the Capitol (a picture they your get in a book, or find on the Internet), that I wonder if they ever see the Capitol with their own eyes.

I took my kids to Disneyworld in the mid 90s when video cameras first became pervasive (but I didn't own one). I watched the parents (usually dad) walk around the park filming every moment of the day. These parents rarely interacted with their children who were supposed to be having a very special day in their lives.

I always wondered was expected to watch 12 hours of "Our Day at Disney".

28 posted on 06/10/2014 10:33:22 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: livius

Problem though is trying to enforce such a rule.


29 posted on 06/10/2014 10:33:40 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: BlatherNaut

Found the passage of scripture:

Hebrew 12:28-29.


30 posted on 06/10/2014 10:44:19 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: livius

In one of my last gigs I was transmitting from my camera on the floor of a basketball showcase directly to the Twitter Feed of the client. That is certainly a lifetime from sending proofs out later that week.

If you cannot keep up, you die. I kept up, but I did not want to after a while.


31 posted on 06/10/2014 1:08:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes, it’s hard. In any case, I’m sure there’ll be something else soon, no matter what.

But I bet that nobody has ever looked at their cell phone vids of that game, but what you sent to your client is proudly shown at his fan events.


32 posted on 06/10/2014 2:35:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: markomalley

When I see these things Matthew 21.13 comes to mind. “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.” Or, in this case, a photography studio. Recently my son graduated from the local Catholic school, and they had a big Mass for the event. Naturally, people had to take tons of pictures, and in so doing ended up wandering all around the sanctuary, and nobody gave any notice or thought to the Sacrament which was present there. Is that what the Lord wants from us? Trampling around his temple, and all around the altar at that, for a good pic? I find it obnoxious and scandalous. It teaches the young to disregard the truth of the faith for other worldly concerns, like having pictures. There have been two thousand years of saints, all of whom received the sacraments, and very few of which had pictures of those moments. Those moments are not about getting pictures, but God. Until we turn away from ourselves and toward the Lord we are lost.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 3:01:58 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: Biggirl

People usually do what they’re told in church. Just announce it before mass and have the ushers give them a stern look if it seems they’re violating it. Plus, the other people around them won’t like what they’re doing and the disapproval will probably work to enforce it.

Even non-Catholic visitors are ok with rules like this. When tourists come into the Cathedral and I’m giving tours, they always ask if it’s ok to take photos. It is, so I can say yes, but if I told them they couldn’t, they’d be okay with that.

We have to give people a little more credit, IMHO. They just need to be told what’s expected of them.


34 posted on 06/10/2014 3:25:46 PM PDT by livius
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To: Biggirl

There’s a bunch of his pictures online. Also, an hour long documentary about him. He had a phenomenal career.


35 posted on 06/10/2014 4:31:50 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: livius

You got that right.

Even my parish church does ask folks to shut their cell phones off for the mass worship, although some folks forget that from time to time.

My present parish priest will be leaving at the end of the month and whoever comes in as new priest afterwards, I would not be surprise that things will get stricter, got to wait and see.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 4:36:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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