No biblical evidence against it either. And again, I know what the Bible says about no other God. Mary is not God nobody ever claims that. Catholic Theology is defined in Latin and it sharply distinguishes the reverence accorded to the saints [dulia] from the worship and adoration that are due to God alone [Latria]. Translating those Latin terms into English does not always communicate the theological differences between veneration of saints and adoration and worship due to God alone. So, you can post all this stuff you want, makes no difference to me, Catholic theology, as well as Eastern Orthodox theology, clearly define what veneration is and what it is not and in no way is it adoration and worship due to God. So no, it cant fit into what you saying it can fit into because it is clearly defined as to what it is and has been for a long, long, long, time, well before the 16th century. Well, it's been enlightening discussing with you. Enjoyed the conversation but I think we've reached what's called an impasse.