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1 posted on 06/07/2014 6:47:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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I feel for parents who have children who have decided to become homosexuals but that does not change the fact that God calls it an abomination. Where do you draw the line for your children’s chosen behavior?


2 posted on 06/07/2014 6:50:28 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Matthew 10:37

"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

3 posted on 06/07/2014 6:50:34 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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“Son, we have a couple of choices. You can follow your urges and the latest fad, in which you are likely to die a slow and painful death from AIDS, or we can follow God’s Word, in which case you can expect forgiveness and eternal life. Which do you think is a better choice?”


4 posted on 06/07/2014 6:50:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Makes sense to me. (poppycock!)


5 posted on 06/07/2014 6:50:51 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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This is not a Christian family, this is a deeply misguided family who are distant from God.

Notice the logic here. The father looked up the condemnation of sodomy in Leviticus and noticed that the consumption of shellfish is also prohibited. He then concluded that since he felt shellfish were okay to eat, that sodomy was totally okay too.
If he had been even a foolish Christian, he would have read the passage and repented for his last meal at RedLobster. Had he been a vaguely well-versed Christian, he would have understood civil law as applicable to Ancient Israel, and the moral law which is binding on humanity until Judgement Day.

The fact that his conclusion was that same-sex activity was permissible based on shellfish shows us that this is no more a Christian than Bill Nye is a scientist.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 6:55:35 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Let's set the “sin” argument aside a moment...

What are the physical repercussions to living an active homosexual lifestyle?

What are the physical repercussions of eating shellfish?

Homosexuals have a shorter lifespan. There is a higher incidence of STDs, chemical abuse (to "perform" as well as to black out the painful thoughts/memories), and who knows what other contributing factors.

Those who eat shelfish are eating "bottomfeeders" that may feast on dead animals. There may be some periodic health concerns (far less health hazards than a gay lifestyle).

Why encourage such activity?

Do parents of heterosexual daughters hold up their adult offspring at family get togethers and say "well, she isn't married yet but boy howdy, she's having fun with her life sleeping around with a different partner every few weeks!"? Doesn't seem that many years ago that even unmarried (common law spouses in all but declare legal status) couples shacking up were cast a welcome (but slight disapproving glance) at family functions.

8 posted on 06/07/2014 6:55:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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These I-changed-my-mind-after-a-family-member-came-out stories are, unfortunately, a dime a dozen these days. They speak volumes about a lack of convictions nowadays.

Can you imagine someone saying, 'I used to think that doing heroin was wrong, but I changed my mind after my son started shooting up'?

Or 'I used to think that armed robbery was wrong, but I changed my mind after my daughter held up a liquor store'?
9 posted on 06/07/2014 6:58:27 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To quote a line from Simon and Garfunkel “All lies in jest till a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”. If we approach the Word of God with to find something that justifies our position or something that seems to at least undermine the position of others then we are doing ourselves a great disservice. If on the other hand we honestly, without preconceived notions, wish to seek God and His truth I am sure you will find it within those pages!


12 posted on 06/07/2014 7:00:42 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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Wow, what horrible understanding of the Word of God.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 7:04:07 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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15 posted on 06/07/2014 7:05:25 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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17 posted on 06/07/2014 7:08:54 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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how weak are Christian parents these days. They’ll tolerate any sin committed by their children because they don’t want to hurt their feelings.
Some Christian parents will ex-communicate their grandchildren cause their adult child asks them too.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 7:18:36 PM PDT by RginTN
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>>often-cited bad argument that both homosexuality and eating shellfish were abominations in the Old Testament

He should read on into the New Testament until he gets to Romans 1:26-28. The “Shellfish Problem” solves itself there in no uncertain terms.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 7:20:58 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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I’m calling Baloney on this father and son studying scripture. If this bogus shellfish argument convinced them, they haven’t spent more than a few minutes in their Bibles.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 7:34:48 PM PDT by lurk
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Perhaps he should have kept reading until he got through the New Testament.


27 posted on 06/07/2014 7:34:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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I smell a troll. An anti-Catholic troll.


33 posted on 06/07/2014 7:44:44 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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From the article: . . . they studied the Bible together and discovered things like the often-cited bad argument that both homosexuality and eating shellfish were abominations in the Old Testament . . .

They "studied" (the son supplied his father excuses) the Bible as an intellectual exercise, whereas sodomy is a spiritual problem, refusing God's purpose for and design of the body as the vessel of a soul. Jehovah has never tempered His tolerance for one's misuse of his own or another's body, because its abuse demonstrates a warped soul and spirit, which is the abomination.

38 posted on 06/07/2014 8:04:14 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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This is what i would have posted if it did not require me to sign in with Facebook-we want to know all about you.

The father should be sad, as in rejecting what the Creator established and instead, justifying perverse desires which man has in different forms due the Fall, his son has chosen an iniquity that, besides other present and eternal cost, has, in 2011 accounted for 79% of 38,825 estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older, and 78% of infections among all newly infected men. After 30 years of trying to tame it. - http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

There simply is no argument that will negate the Biblical injunctions against homosexual relations and find sanction for them. God made man and women uniquely compatible and complimentary, in more ways than the physical aspect, and only joined them in marriage, which Jesus Himself specified. (Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4-6) Homosexual unions are only condemned by God in the Scriptures by design and decree, in principle and in precept.

And attempts to force homosexual relations into passages it does not belong extends even to pro homosexual apologetics on the Bible, the specious nature of which as http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.htmlHomosexuality reveals.

However, some of the first Christians were likely former homosexuals, (1Cor. 6:9-11) and there is room at the cross for all who want the Lord Jesus over sin, and believe upon Him to save them who died for them, and rose again. And who thus are baptized and follow Him, to the glory of God.


41 posted on 06/07/2014 8:25:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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Poor shellfish! They always seem to get dragged into discussions of the Bible and sexual behavior. Oh, and mixed fibers!


45 posted on 06/07/2014 10:06:40 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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A lot of this arises from the confusion over what is meant by condemning homosexuality. It is important to remember that God does not condemn homosexual feelings per se- He condemns certain sex acts which those feelings may lead to. Christian theology does not condemn sexually chaste, emotionally intimate relationships between two homosexuals of the same sex.
55 posted on 06/08/2014 7:41:43 AM PDT by Michael1977
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