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What if Your Child is Gay?
Moore to The Point ^ | June 6, 2014 | Russell Moore

Posted on 06/07/2014 2:20:39 PM PDT by yongin

My denomination is dealing these days with a pastor in California who reversed his position on homosexuality. The pastor said that his shift coincided with his 15 year-old son’s announcement that he is gay. This is a situation every Christian should think through, now. As I’ve said before, at stake on the issue of a Christian sexual ethic is the gospel of Jesus Christ. But what if, sitting across from you, is your child or grandchild?

You will, without a doubt, have someone close to you in your family come out as gay or lesbian, if not already, then sometime in the future. How should a Christian parent or grandparent respond?

One of the reasons this is such a crushing experience for many is because they assume that their alternatives are affirmation or alienation. I either give up my relationship with my child or I give up the Bible. The gospel never suggests this set of alternatives, and in fact demonstrates just the opposite.

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To: Yaelle
Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

But Jesus did not accept, condone or "support" those who sinned to continue sinning. He told them directly not to sin any more. And he drove a particular band of sinners out of the Temple with a bullwhip.

Jesus was not Messiah of the "Church of Nice People." That image of progressive liberal politically correct "tolerance" is a recent invention by mortals who want to get over on God during this lifetime. Pity them in the next.

61 posted on 06/07/2014 3:51:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: yongin

I’ll bet the kid goes to a public indoctrination center. The PICs try to turn kids gay these days by feeding it to them every day from preschool on.


62 posted on 06/07/2014 3:53:53 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Yaelle
Perhaps you are forgetting that when the money changers defiled the temple, Jesus sat down and took the time to braid a whip / scourge and beat the defilers of the temple and destroyed their tables. Jesus also spoke out against the Pharisees and Sadducee's calling them vipers and thieves. Jesus did not help all.

And in the incident of the women who was about to be stoned, Jesus commanded her at the end of their encounter to go and sin no more. Repentance is the price that is paid to unlock mercy and grace.

63 posted on 06/07/2014 3:54:09 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: A_perfect_lady
You say, “Oh Thank God... I thought you were about to tell me you were majoring in Sociology.”

Or law school.

Or getting accepted to Harvard.

64 posted on 06/07/2014 3:55:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Yaelle
I don’t stone people who don’t observe the sabbath.

Oh, for God's sake...

Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

Yeah, I can tell you don't have the faintest clue of what you're talking about. It's clear as day.

65 posted on 06/07/2014 3:59:07 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: BuffaloJack
If your kid is gay then he need psychiatric help to make he’s normal again.

From what i've seen of "psychiatric help" i'm thinking you aren't going to get any useful results from it.

66 posted on 06/07/2014 3:59:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: yongin

“Being gay” isn’t a sin for two reasons.

1. There is no such thing (gay).

2. It is the sex “act” itself that is the sin.

They are just giving in to their evil desires (with someone of the same sex).

What if my kid was gay? Impossible. It’s a choice to commit sin. Just like a shoplifter may have a proclivity toward stealing, he has to resist. Just because you are sexually drawn toward the same sex, doesn’t mean you have to act on it. We all have to resist temptation. Having a temptation does not make you gay.

The whole gay agenda (now expanded to LGBT, what’s next?) has ALWAYS been about making society accept homosexuality as “normal”. IT ISN’T!

Like the drug user wants his drugs and the drunk wants his booze, and the car queer (that’s tech talk from the car business), wants that next car, homosexuals (especially men) want that forbidden SEX. They all “covet” and give in to the sin. They WANT TO.

It’s hard to be righteous! Impossible without God.


67 posted on 06/07/2014 4:04:30 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: WestwardHo
My son has been a homosexual for over ten years.The following article helps to keep me praying, which I must say, really gets hard as the years go by

My son has been dead for nine. If you want to know what hard is, try living the rest of your life without ever getting to see your son or talk to him or touch or hold him again.

68 posted on 06/07/2014 4:05:29 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: yongin

Having a child who is gay leaves the parents with a tough choice. Would you prefer that your child follow God’s Word or that he have lots of fun in bath houses? I know which decision I would make, and I consider it the loving decision, but many Christians have trouble standing up to pressure from those who deny God.


69 posted on 06/07/2014 4:15:42 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: yongin
Stop letting him watch television where homosexuality is being constantly portrayed as "normal" and acceptable.

Most of the time these ideas are PLACED into the child's head, and the child does not come by them naturally. There is a JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) article which asserts that 40% of Homosexuals admit having been molested as children.

Homosexuality propagates by recruitment, and if he didn't get the idea from Television or School (where claiming to be homosexual has become somewhat of a fad) then I would look very carefully at any male adults he is acquainted with.

70 posted on 06/07/2014 4:18:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: BuffaloJack

It’s illegal in California... and some other states as well.


71 posted on 06/07/2014 4:20:55 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: TADSLOS

” Its 2% of the damn population
I doubt it’s even half that. ”

And incredibly they run the country.


72 posted on 06/07/2014 4:25:09 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: yongin

So a 15 year old kid came out as gay, huh?

Sigh. My kid’s high school is crawling with attention starved boys who wear tight jeans and speak with a lisp. They aren’t gay...they are so attention starved, they put on a gay facade.

This bevaviour should not be indulged. The problem is, it is very difficult for a teenager to be ‘told what to do’ by parents. And, we have relied on ‘community shame’ to keep teenagers in line. For example, a kid may want to defy his parents...but would be mortified if a teacher, preacher, boy scoutleader saw him misbehave. This concept has worked well....until now, since preachers, teachers, and scout leaders have been PC neutered into ‘accepting’ gay behaviour - and actually give positive reinforcement.


73 posted on 06/07/2014 4:26:51 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: yongin
What if Your Child is Gay

Then he or she would be a sinner.

74 posted on 06/07/2014 4:28:41 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ClearCase_guy

They use that argument a lot. But it’s a totally bogus argument.

There are many savory predilictions that a lot of people are born with (pedophiles, arsonists, etc) that society doesn’t put up with.

I suppose they would come back with “but homosexuals don’t harm anybody”. Well we’ll see - perhaps its the whole society that gets damaged. We have a good test case underway between the US and Russia.


75 posted on 06/07/2014 4:35:05 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Yaelle
If you go with every word of the Bible as infallible, then I guess your child is out of luck for support and love.

A close relative of mine enjoys heterosexual sex - a lot, and not just with the spouse and not just with people who are unmarried. This relative (I'm being vague for privacy reasons since a small number of my relatives know I post here as pollster1) can come to me for support in other areas and for love, but I will never support those actions, which are choices that are completely voluntary and completely wrong. I don't see how that response to adultery is different from the same response to GLBQT-Whatever.

76 posted on 06/07/2014 4:36:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: yongin

What if your child is a drunkard?

What if your child is a fornicator?

What if your child is a sinner?


77 posted on 06/07/2014 4:37:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Marxists believe that all property is theft, therefore the “moral” response is to steal/redistribute/liberate their goods for “the common good”.


78 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: cloudmountain

At 15 how did he even know???


79 posted on 06/07/2014 4:40:45 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: yongin; Viennacon; GeronL; TADSLOS; cloudmountain; Jack Hydrazine
9 ... This is delusional. Its 2% of the damn population. ...

14 I doubt it's even half that.

50 The entire homosexual AND bisexual population is .5 - 1.5% of the population. I've been watching THAT number for years.

53 There was a survey done in the UK of the number of homosexuals. They found that 1.5% were. ...

Edward O. Laumann’s book, The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States, was published in 1994. It has since become the most accepted study on the incidence of homosexuality in the U.S. population. It included The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS, conducted during 1992) which found that 2.8% of the male and 1.4% of the female population identified themselves as homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual.

National Health and Social Life Survey

Edward Laumann

80 posted on 06/07/2014 4:41:26 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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