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To: CTrent1564; delchiante
you are thinking like a fundamentalist protestant, most likely some type of Adventist or Jehova’s witness, who who most likely doesn’t believe in the Trinity and that Christ is to use the latin term, consubstantial with the Father.

No, delchiante appears to be a follower of the Hebrew Roots Movement in one form or another (Google Michael Rood, Hebrew Roots Heresy). They represent a fundamental attack on the reliability of the Christian Scriptures, and are as antithetical as anything can be to a fundamentalist Protestant, who BTW would be in total agreement with the conclusions of Nicea, except for those very few who didn't get taught. Those "fundamentalist" folks are where I have some of my earliest roots, and I don't know why so many RC folks here do not know what they actually believe.

Peace,

SR

79 posted on 06/08/2014 9:46:54 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Springfield:

I have no idea what the Hebrew Roots movement is and who started it, to be honest. Off the cuff, it seems like its genesis would likely come from American fundamentalist Protestantism of some stripe. As to from which protest sect is derived from, I can only speculate so I guess I will not do that.

Still, it most likely started with someone who went ahhhaaa, the scriptures are saying “this and that” and now from someone thinking they have read the scriptures “the correct way” apart from the Historic Church, of which I believe the Catholic [Fully] and then Orthodox [99.999999999% fully] represent, then you end up with this nonsense.

And for the record, I would not label Traditional Anglicans, Confessional Lutherans and Confessional Reformed-Presbyterians amongst Fundamentalist Protestantism.


81 posted on 06/09/2014 6:05:11 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: Springfield Reformer

All I did was study something placed in my hands by a nice catholic- I was attending an orthodox presbyterian church at the time and I expected to be there awhile even going through the classes to become a member...

That booklet, the how to pray the rosary book , with the beads and a dream I had about a Fatima a little while before that ( I knew nothing about that name previously-and the site I saw, it was a Muslim name )

It came to me that Catholics really believe this fatima stuff and it made me want to defend my faith. Even if it went against church teaching or traditions...

There were 15 promises in the instruction booklet that spirit gave for praying the rosary... and I ddnt get biblically past the first promise before the first lie was found- and followed them and could refute all of them as lies with Scripture..

And when I got to number 14.. after lots of I, me, Mys from the spirit, the spirit mentioned and pointed to her only son, Jesus Christ, by name..

And No lies lead to the Way, Truth or Life.

So what to do? Two different Jesuses?

While I was studying this, I was starting to wonder everything about the catholic church like I really never did before..
Trying to reconcile three days/three nights and Jonah and the Feasts and easter and its relation to the feasts....

After study and His grace, I discovered so much of Christianity has just come up with their own substitutes form what should be for Torah, that became flesh...

And believe me, it was a punch in the gut.. because one has to unlearn a lot.. and very humbling.. but His Calendar study was an awesome study and when I saw even Jews are screwed up using the gregorian, I knew that what I stumbled onto was a real deception..

And following all of this with then the studying of acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8 where the ‘Jesus’ in my old bible has been changed to ‘Joshua’ in newer versions, I could see even more how the master counterfeiter has done a job on even the very elect.. substitutes here and there, all the while leaving the words in place is still counterfeiting,, I couldn’t tell a phony $20 bill unless it looked so different..
Then my study of that word ‘anti’ with a simple concordance and how it really meant ‘in place of’ or ‘’instead of’, it was another eye opener..
The anti messiah won’t be one who will not look like the messiah, it will be a counterfeit that looks so much like him,and speak like Him.. only way to tell would be through The Holy Word...

I shouldn’t know what I know.. this should be reserved for the billy grahams and pastors and those who have dedicated their lives to study His word and preach the gospel..

Not me..but maybe because I quit my life two years ago and placed my livelihood cmpletely in His hands, I was blessed...
The choice to be my dad’s full time caregiver two years ago - My life suddenly ceased to be about me, here or now- but Him, His kingdom and spending eternity in His Kingdom with Him, trusting Him for everything...

How can I explain how I was drawn away by Him, from even an orthodox protestant church for private home worship and rejecting the world’s system for a calendar based on His sun, moon and stars?

And now as a full time caregiver with a job 24/7, I can really observe His calendar and leave the worlds religious, political and business systems behind..
That is amazing grace..

And my prayer has been I never have to go back to the world’s slavery ...
I had no idea how enslaved I was..I thought I had lots of freedom- Wrong!

and my concern is for the billions locked in traditions, vain worship and counterfeit substitutes that resemble more Tammuz than Torah that have a fake freedom that is subtle slavery..

I can now understand how people can hear ‘I never knew You, depart from Me, you workers of Lawlessness...

Our enemy is a great countefeiter and deceiver... And I hope all catholics and protestants, jews and even muslims will see through those counterfeits and deceptions that touches all religious beliefs.. secular humanists, we should not be..

To Him be all the glory!


84 posted on 06/09/2014 10:04:37 PM PDT by delchiante
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