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To: CTrent1564
There are some Traditionalist Catholics that would long for those days again.

Yes, there are Catholics who wish the pope would actually speak and act like a Catholic. It's kind of a prerequisite for a pope (even the so-called "bad" ones).

63 posted on 06/08/2014 6:58:39 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

piusv:

Well, again, you are taking what I said and fitting it to your agenda. I used the context of Christendom where the Church had the ability to influence secular and political rule. There are some of you guys that still want the Pope to be a secular ruler. Those days are gone.

Now, I agree that Pope Francis is a bit of a loose canon in terms of how he speaks off the cuff. I wish he were more measured in what he says. He at the same time talks about the Devil as the source of evil and the reality of the Devil [and he does it in some in-depth theological language] not the way some other groups talk about that, he supports Mueller and the CDF and its criticism of the LCWF for being basically recycled Gnosticism and at the same time has a prayer meeting in the Vatican Gardens.

But, this is what you get when you have a 2nd half of the 20th century trained Jesuit as Pope. So I guess in some way, not all that surprised that Pope Francis would cause some head scratching. In fairness, John Paul II was a solid pope, in my view, and he did some things that caused me say hmmmmm. Pope Benedict on the other hand, I never really felt I did that. Pope’s come and go, but Christ and the Church and the Faith remain.


64 posted on 06/08/2014 7:14:24 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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