Now you’re just lobbing cranky insults. The simple fact is that I put a tremendous amount of time into my prior replies. You have previously mischaracterized them, & now you’re gratuitously insulting them. You haven’t yet become as rude as other Calvinistic people I’ve encountered, but you’re headed in that direction. In a prior post I mentioned the fruit of the Spirit. Which fruit, specifically, are you exhibiting when you wholly & fundamentally mischaracterize what I’ve written? You’ve gone from misstating my point to claiming I posted antagonistic nonsense. If you honestly believe this, there is no point in conversing with you.
I said I would correspond with you so long as you remained polite & responsive. The conditions are no longer met.
Here are your main points, then:
1. Post 74 - Calvin’s god was a Sadistic monster.
2. Post 76 - The eternal destiny of the unsaved is eternal torture
3. Post 76 - The degree of eternal torture is varied based on the level of guilt
4. Post 77 - Belief is something we do, independent of God, in response to his offer of salvation
5. Post 77 - QUOTE: Predestination is not to justification, but to being conformed to the image of Jesus. And those he “foreknew” are the subject of that predestination, but it does not say if those he foreknew means a list of names God picked to save, or those whom God knew would repent and believe. (in response to the SCRIPTURE Rom 8:30 "And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified")
6. Post 86 - QUOTE: "If not, why do you believe the lake of fire is literal?" I suppose you are asserting that it is not literal?
7. Post 87 - QUOTE: "Notice that once he is in ‘this place of torment’ (in which ‘flames’ are mentioned), the rich man still acts on the basis of free will. I.e.: an eternal perspective hasn’t made a Calvinist out of him; quite the contrary; he believes his brothers are capable of repentance if they so choose." I am not sure what to make of this. You mentioned the "Entirely non-Biblical, but quite remarkable." idea of multiple judgments (which I did not suggest), yet you assert this man is in "torment", yet his brothers can still repent. You could be asserting: a) People are judged immediately at death, and cast into the "place of torment" forever, thus his brothers could still repent. b)This is after a final judgment of all men, and the rich man does not understand his brothers are hopelessly condemned like himself c)same as b, but the brothers could repent and escape the "place of torment. d)something else?
8. Post 104: QUOTE: "if some had previously been judged worthy to occupy a place of comfort, & to enjoy Abraham’s embrace, & were marched in from that place to stand judgment (again), while others had been judged worthy to occupy a place of flame & torment, & had been routed from there only to face a second damning judgment, there would be no surprises. Every person present would already have been judged once, & the second time would be redundant." Another one I am not sure how to take. I get your aversion to multiple judgements, but you have a hole in your timeline. What happened to Lazarus when he died 2000 years ago, that is, what happened to his soul? Soul Sleep? Limbo? Purgatory? If he did not go to Abarahams bosom to await final judgment, and the rich man did not go to a less comfortable place to await judgment, where did they go?