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To: Hoodat; F15Eagle
You want a verse that says "HAS everlasting life"?

No.

Why? Are you afraid it might contradict a narrative you have already believed? The only way to be sure we know what Scripture means is by looking at OTHER Scriptures. Scripture interprets Scripture. We also have the indwelling Holy Spirit who illuminates the truth to our hearts and helps us understand the deeper truths of God.

88 posted on 05/27/2014 8:43:24 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums
Why? Are you afraid it might contradict a narrative you have already believed?

No, I am not afraid. It doesn't contradict any narrative I have. I was only commenting on John 3:16 because it doesn't say 'has' as another poster claimed.

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The only way to be sure we know what Scripture means is by looking at OTHER Scriptures.

That's really not necessary in this case. The words are self-explanatory. They don't take anything away from any other scriptures. They simply did not say what another poster claimed. That's all.

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We also have the indwelling Holy Spirit who illuminates the truth to our hearts and helps us understand the deeper truths of God.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

93 posted on 05/27/2014 10:49:45 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: boatbums; FatherofFive
The only way to be sure we know what Scripture means is by looking at OTHER Scriptures. Scripture interprets Scripture.

This is the truest thing you have ever said. Now could you explain to my how the "This is my" is different or metaphorical between "This is My Son" and "This is My Body" and "This is my blood"

I am including the Greek and the English for you:

Matthew 3:17 - NAS – and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased

Matthew 3:17 - WH – και ιδου (5640) φωνη εκ των ουρανων λεγουσα (5723) ουτος εστιν (5719) ο υιος μου ο αγαπητος εν ω ευδοκησα (5656)

Matthew 17:5 - NAS – While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, "This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased listen to Him!"

Matthew 17:5 - WH – ετι αυτου λαλουντος (5723) ιδου (5640) νεφελη φωτεινη επεσκιασεν (5656) αυτους και ιδου (5640) φωνη εκ της νεφελης λεγουσα (5723) ουτος εστιν (5719) ο υιος μου ο αγαπητος εν ω ευδοκησα (5656) ακουετε (5720) αυτου

Matthew 26:26 - NAS – While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is My body."

Matthew 26:26 - WH – εσθιοντων (5723) δε αυτων λαβων (5631) ο ιησους αρτον και ευλογησας (5660) εκλασεν (5656) και δους (5631) τοις μαθηταις ειπεν (5627) λαβετε (5628) φαγετε (5628) τουτο εστιν (5719) το σωμα μου

Matthew 26:28 - NAS – for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

Matthew 26:28 - WH – τουτο γαρ εστιν (5719) το αιμα μου της διαθηκης το περι πολλων εκχυννομενον (5746) εις αφεσιν αμαρτιων

Mark 9:7 - NAS – Then a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud, "This is My beloved Son, listen to Him!"

Mark 9:7 - WH – και εγενετο (5633) νεφελη επισκιαζουσα (5723) αυτοις και εγενετο (5633) φωνη εκ της νεφελης ουτος εστιν (5719) ο υιος μου ο αγαπητος ακουετε (5720) αυτου

Mark 14:22 - NAS – While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, "Take it; this is My body."

Mark 14:22 - WH – και εσθιοντων (5723) αυτων λαβων (5631) αρτον ευλογησας (5660) εκλασεν (5656) και εδωκεν (5656) αυτοις και ειπεν (5627) λαβετε (5628) τουτο εστιν (5719) το σωμα μου

Mark 14:24 - NAS – And He said to them, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

Mark 14:24 - WH – και ειπεν (5627) αυτοις τουτο εστιν (5719) το αιμα μου της διαθηκης το εκχυννομενον (5746) υπερ πολλων

Luke 9:35 - NAS – Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My Son, My Chosen One; listen to Him!"

Luke 9:35 - WH – και φωνη εγενετο (5633) εκ της νεφελης λεγουσα (5723) ουτος εστιν (5719) ο υιος μου ο εκλελεγμενος (5772) αυτου ακουετε (5720)

Luke 22:19 - NAS – And when He had taken some bread and given thanks He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me."

Luke 22:19 - WH – και λαβων (5631) αρτον ευχαριστησας (5660) εκλασεν (5656) και εδωκεν (5656) αυτοις λεγων (5723) τουτο εστιν (5719) το σωμα μου {Variant #1: [[το } {Variant #2: το } υπερ υμων διδομενον (5746) τουτο ποιειτε (5720) εις την εμην αναμνησιν

Luke 22:20 - NAS – And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

Luke 22:20 - WH – και το ποτηριον ωσαυτως μετα το δειπνησαι (5658) λεγων (5723) τουτο το ποτηριον η καινη διαθηκη εν τω αιματι μου το υπερ υμων {Variant #1: εκχυννομενον]] (5746) } {Variant #2: εκχυννομενον (5746) }

I will be awaiting your illuminating exposition with baited breath.

100 posted on 05/28/2014 5:17:59 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatrian)
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