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To: PhilipFreneau
Philip, you have proved my point over and over again.

As I have always maintained ... Preterism is the easiest theological system to dispense with, but they scream the loudest when challenged.

You really should go the way of Chilton ... realize your inconsistencies and go with Full Preterism and get it over with ... you're gonna blow a gasket soon.

40 posted on 05/29/2014 6:20:09 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: dartuser
>>>As I have always maintained ... Preterism is the easiest theological system to dispense with, but they scream the loudest when challenged.<<<

Dartuser, you have not been listening to yourself, nor to many other dispensationalists. The internet, bookstores and airways are flooded with the false, new-age doctrine of dispensationalism, interwoven with a myriad of their false prophecies. Dispensationalists have become so brainwashed by their new-age doctrine they no longer believe they are being loud (and nasty,) but rather think they are being "helpful."

I realize that is typical cult behavior; but I am still amazed how easily a nasty, vindictive charlatan like John Nelson Darby, and a convicted felon like Cyrus Ingerson Schofield (convicted and served time for fraud, of course) could gain such a following. This is the legendary Charles Spurgeon in 1869, quoting from a book by another legend, James Grant, titled, "The religious tendencies of the times; or, How to deal with the deadly errors and dangerous delusions of the day," on the arrogance of Darby's cult:

    "No one ever saw a Darbyite at any of our Bible, or Missionary, or other Evangelical Society meetings. The Brethren look upon all other denominations, however evangelical in sentiment, and however high their standard of personal religion, as so largely infected with error in doctrine, as well as wrong in relation to church government, that they believe it would be sinful to associate with them for the promotion of religious ends. And this conviction, which is never absent from their minds, naturally has the effect of puffing them up with spiritual pride. Believing that they alone of all religious bodies have attained to the knowledge of the truth, it could hardly be otherwise than that they should look down on every other Christian sect with supreme pity, mingled, even according to the admission of some of their own number, with contempt. . . ."

http://www.spurgeon.org/s_and_t/dbreth.htm

I believe you will find Charles Spurgeon was a straight shooter.


One other point: dispensationalists defend Scofield's criminal past by claiming "he threw away his past and was saved," or something to that effect. If he was "saved" why did he not reconcile with his daughters whom he had abandoned early on? Some Christian he was . . .


>>>You really should go the way of Chilton ... realize your inconsistencies and go with Full Preterism and get it over with ... you're gonna blow a gasket soon.<<<

Is he a preterist? I wasn't sure. If so, your recommendation is about the nuttiest thing I have heard from you. Believing the doctrine of a preterist would be almost as difficult as believing dispensationalism. In either case, I would have to throw the King James Version out the window and embrace man-made doctrine: in the case of dispensationalism, the new-age, man-made doctrine of a very large and dangerous cult. No thanks.

Philip

41 posted on 05/29/2014 8:13:29 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: dartuser

>>>Preterism is the easiest theological system to dispense with, but they scream the loudest when challenged.<<<

When I first read this misdirection (this “sleight of hand”,) I had a nagging feeling that I had been warned of such deviousness years ago.

Then it dawned on me: a fellow named Philip Freneau wrote an editorial in 1792 that warned of such misdirection. He labeled it, “Crying ‘Stop Thief,’ first,” assumedly so the crowd will not realize that you are, in fact, the thief. Your comment (above) is a classic example of such misdirection.

Anyway, Philip Freneau was the editor of the National Gazette, a newspaper owned by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. This is a link to the editorial, titled “Rules for Changing a Republic [into a Democracy, then] into a Monarchy;” and it is a true classic: instructing us on how tyrants are able to usurp powers and create unconstitutional law:

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

I first read that editorial in the mid-1970s. It was included with my new Encyclopedia Britannica’s in a companion set of books titled “Annals of America.” The editorial was so breathtakingly revealing that I later adopted my Freeper name from the author.

Philip


43 posted on 05/29/2014 9:07:08 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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