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I see: your intent has been to smear and redirect all along. I suspected that was the case.

I thought I was clear in my last post; I'm not trying to win a debate.

Why not be up front with everyone and explain why you object to my doctrine?

The ping history is full of my remarks concerning your theology ... everyone can read them.

People do not get any crazier than Hal Lindsey.

We finally agree ...

Since you brought it up, when are you going to post more articles from Mr. Congenial, Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum? ...
And how about some articles from the false prophet (and lousy "historian,") Mark Hitchcock?

You can read all you want at

www.pre-trib.org

There is a huge array of articles from seminary professors, pastors, and teachers.

When are you going to dispute my five points in post #19?

I gave you credit for the 2 you got right ... and we have been through the others in the past.

Dartuser . . . it is becoming impossible to take you seriously . . .

What is that a debate 101 technique? Concluding remarks should be the last thing your opponent said and then throw it back at him as if you made the point yourself? Not that clever.

I'll give you the last word on this thread ... see you next thread.

>>>I gave you credit for the 2 you got right ... and we have been through the others in the past.<<<

Let me see, you said you agreed that:

1) The new covenant replaced the old.
2) The Church is forever.

I did not realize that you believe in Replacement Theology. In fact, I am astonished, considering the tone of your previous posts when debating Replacement Theology.

You do realize that those, like me, who believe that the new covenant has replaced the old covenant, also believe that Joshua 11:23, 21:43-45 and 23:14 meant exactly what it says: that God fulfilled his land promises to Israel long ago. Dual-covenant theologists, like Fruchtenbaum, must spiritualize those verses so they mean something else; that is, they must be "reinterpreted" to pretend that God did not fulfil those promises, in order to claim (demand) thus God must fulfil them in the future. I know it seems bizarre, but that is what dual-covenant theologists believe.

These are the three verses from Joshua that plainly indicate fulfillment

"So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the Lord said unto Moses; and Joshua gave it for an inheritance unto Israel according to their divisions by their tribes. And the land rested from war." (Jos 11:23 KJV)

"And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass." (Jos 21:43-45 KJV)

"And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the Lord your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, and not one thing hath failed thereof." (Jos 23:14 KJV)

Are you sure you do not want to clarify that position? If not, then welcome to the light.

Philip

>>>I thought I was clear in my last post; I'm not trying to win a debate. <<<

What are you, the Drive-By Media? When you make claims that you do not defend--claims that you run away from--is that not simply an attempt to smear, like the Drive-By's do to those who are not brain-dead?

I made five points in post #19, This is point 2:

2) "the Church replaced Israel as God's chosen people"

I justified my claim with these verses:

"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal 3:26-29 KJV)

"And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth . . ." (Acts 17:26 KJV)

In your post #20 you disagreed, and you have been throwing around innuendo since, hoping something will stick. Would you please enlighten us all with scripture that indicates otherwise, or admit you have nothing to prove your innuendo? Either will be fine.

Thanks,

Philip

You can read all you want at
www.pre-trib.org
There is a huge array of articles from seminary professors, pastors, and teachers.

You can read all you want at

www.monergism.com

There is a huge array of articles from seminary professors, pastors, and teachers.

(Just a recommended resource.)