Posted on 05/25/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Perhaps you don’t pray to the Saints in Heaven because you failed to read St. Paul’s letters asking us to pray for one another and that not even bodily death separates us from the Body of Christ. If you have ever asked any one to pray for you, or for something, you have done the same thing Catholics do when they pray to the Saints. Same thing.
Shame on you.
Henry never divorced Catherine.
This thread must be more of that anti-Catholic hatred I keep hearing about./s
Excuse me? Hid the truth?
I doubt it very much.
More like they were slaughtered by the Kings daughter Bloody Mary, until Elizabeth took the kings new religion and turned it into a liberal version of Catholicism.
This was my summary on what happened in England.
“To Jesus Christ I commend my soul; Lord Jesus receive my soul.” With her last words still lingering in the air a skilled swordsman, brought over from France, beheaded the reason for England’s reformation. King Henry wanted an annulment from his wife, who had not given him a male heir, so he could marry Anne Boleyn. In time she too would fail to give the King a son.
Interestingly, shortly before her execution on charges of adultery, the Queen’s marriage to the King was dissolved and declared invalid. One would wonder then how she could have committed adultery if she had in fact never been married to the King. Henry the VIII’s desire for a male heir to his throne led England on a path that would eventually lead to what English churchman would call a “Via Media”.
Henry wanted freedom from the Popes authority but he still insisted his kingdom follow the Catholic doctrine, with only two changes. He wanted an English Bible used in all churches, and the suppression of the unpopular monasteries. The King eventually put forth regulations that only the wealthy and aristocrats could read the Bible, and confiscated the property of many small monasteries adding their money to his royal treasury.
Upon the death of Henry’s son Edward VI, Mary Tudor, known in history as “Bloody Mary”, would attempt to restore Roman Catholicism in England. After almost three hundred executions, including that of Archbishop Thomas Crammer, Queen Mary had reversed most of what Henry and Edward had done. Mary died after only reigning five years and the daughter of the beheaded Anne Boleyn would assume the throne.
Queen Elizabeth, whom Mary’s cousin Charles V warned her to execute, not only reversed all of Mary’s policies against the Protestants, but she went farther in her reforms then Henry did. Elizabeth had a policy of theological inclusivism that had no room for Roman Catholicism or extreme Protestantism. Her ideal church was a state church that practiced uniform doctrine that united the kingdom in common worship. Elizabeth’s “Thirty-nine Articles” was essentially Protestant but worded in such a way that satisfied both Catholic’s and Protestants or, “Via Media”.
With the end of persecutions many Protestants who fled during Mary’s reign returned to England, only to find Elizabeth’s religious reforms did not go far enough. With Bibles such as Tyndale’s, Wyclif’s, and others that were written with the help of the newly acquired Greek documents, a new group of believers would emerge.
This new group influenced also by Calvin and other reformers from the mainland, believed in restoring the pure practices and doctrines of the New Testament thus their name the “Puritans”. These Puritans would eventually become a driving force in English religious life and lead the way to religious freedom and the “New World”.
“If you have ever asked any one to pray for you, or for something, you have done the same thing Catholics do when they pray to the Saints. Same thing.”
Not even close. Asking another living person to pray for you is far different then someone who has died.
Its too bad the effort isn’t put into spreading the word of Jesus’s sacrafice and path to salvation.
America isn’t a church denomination.
I’m still trying to figure out why I would pray to a saint in heaven asking for intercession when I can just pray to Jesus with my prayer request. I just eliminate the middle man, as it were.
When I ask someone to pray for me, I’m assured that they can hear me ... I have no such assurance that anyone, besides the G_d, can even hear my prayer.
Romans 8:38
LOL. This is pure roman aggression. And ugly.
If someone is in Heaven they are not dead - they are alive.
Because it is completely scriptural: Revelation 8:3-4 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God's people, on the golden altar in front of the throne.The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's hand.
Doesn’t answer my original question. I pray to Jesus for all my needs, I see no need to pray to anyone else. Just say’n
The Roman Catholic Church is the oldest most profitable mutli-national corporation on the planet
Got that right.
Agreed.
It’s sad, really.
Because you’re not allowed to speak to Jesus directly. See how divisive these kinds of articles are.
Sowing discord among the saints.
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