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How a Protestant spin machine hid the truth about the English Reformation
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk ^ | May 23, 2014 | Dominic Selwood

Posted on 05/25/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Today, May 23, is the anniversary of King Henry VIII’s divorce from Catherine of Aragon —­ the event which started the English Reformation.

In 2003, Charles Clarke, Tony Blair’s Secretary of State for Education and Skills, expressed strong views on the teaching of British history.

I don’t mind there being some medievalists around for ornamental purposes, but there is no reason for the state to pay for them.

In response, Michael Biddiss, professor of medieval history at Reading University, suggested that Mr Clarke’s view may have been informed by Khrushchev’s notion that historians are dangerous people, capable of upsetting everything.­­­­­

In many ways, Khrushchev was correct. Historians can be a distinct threat —­ both those who create “official” history, and those who work quietly to unpick it, filling in the irksome and unhelpful details.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: dsc

Mayhap, but he has promised in His Holy Word that he hears my prayers ... how he chooses to answer is up to Him. LOL!


81 posted on 05/25/2014 6:36:19 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: sasportas
Having established your position...

Prove it.

82 posted on 05/25/2014 6:36:32 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: ansel12; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; ...

Protestant isn’t very specific, and I’m not aware of any denomination except the Catholic one that has such a problem not with lust, but with lust for male flesh.

It isn’t like the catholic denomination is famous for it’s leadership falling for females.

The truth seems to be lacking here. Charity as well. Perhaps a little bit of statistics and maybe some history lessons are in order. What say you all?


84 posted on 05/25/2014 6:37:16 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: ansel12

What odd little cult teaches you these bizarro false histories?


86 posted on 05/25/2014 6:40:19 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: impimp

Most historical records record Bloody Mary as being much less merciful than Elizabeth. Elizabeth had to deal with the bloody mood for over 40 years with a thousand killed by indirect battles, not all related to religion, while Mary had about 300-400 killed in 5 years by direct decree, hence her pseudonym.


87 posted on 05/25/2014 6:40:40 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: narses

Name the untruth in that post, if there was one, you could have.


88 posted on 05/25/2014 6:41:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: pbear8

What were the penalties for a Christians who did not want to be a member of the Catholic denomination and wanted to worship among themselves?


89 posted on 05/25/2014 6:43:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
What an absurd comment.

"Now look here, its no use mentioning Protestant religious oppression, especially a specific instance, because, I mean, darnit, Catholics did it too!"

And apparently, in your world, asserting over and over "centuries of oppression" without any specific evidence beats mentioning actual incidents?

90 posted on 05/25/2014 6:45:04 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: ansel12
"What were the penalties for a Christians who did not want to be a member of the Catholic denomination and wanted to worship among themselves?"

What were the penalties for Catholics who did not want to be Protestants?

91 posted on 05/25/2014 6:45:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: ansel12

What odd little cult teaches you these bizarro false histories?


92 posted on 05/25/2014 6:50:07 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

“Perhaps a little bit of statistics and maybe some history lessons are in order.”

I don’t know. I really don’t. Maybe it would be best to stop wasting time, or maybe spurring your plowhorse and jousting at the windmill is virtuous; I don’t know.


93 posted on 05/25/2014 6:51:07 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Over the many centuries of total catholic domination, what were the penalties for Christians who did not want to be a member of the Catholic denomination and wanted to worship among themselves?


95 posted on 05/25/2014 6:52:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: pbear8

See post 13.


96 posted on 05/25/2014 6:53:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Do NOT compare a religion to the Taliban. It is just as inappropriate as comparing a correspondent to a Nazi, it invokes Godwin’s Law.


97 posted on 05/25/2014 6:53:34 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Do NOT compare a religion to the Taliban. It is just as inappropriate as comparing a correspondent to a Nazi, it invokes Godwin’s Law.


99 posted on 05/25/2014 6:54:46 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

When post 13 introduced the Taliban, I wasn’t aware of the the rule, and now I see how 13 threaded the needle to introduce the word.


100 posted on 05/25/2014 6:56:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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