But I don’t think they believe in the Real Presence, as in the bread and wine actually becoming the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus.
Awful broad brush you’re holding there. I’ll bet not every Catholic believes or even knows of that. So, in your opinion, belief in transubstantiation is the ticket to salvation?
That’s probably because such a belief is absolute nonsense.
Some Protestants (Anglicans, Lutherans ) believe in the Real Presence, but not as it is understood in the doctrine of transsubstantiation. That is different from other Protestants who regard the Lord’s Supper as a spiritual communion or purely symbolic. One point of contention between Luther and Calvin was on that issue. Luther insisted that “This is my body...This is my blood” meant exactly that.
As a PS, believe what you want to believe, NKP. Just don’t be too shocked if a lot of other people fail to agree with you.
This raises an interesting point, for later discussion I suppose: different religions, certainly Christian, Jewish and Muslim, make one another non-believers.
But even within Christianity, different strongly held beliefs make us atheists, in one sense of the word, to one another.
If you follow what I’m saying, two people holding contradictory opinions on a specific issue cannot both be right. So one is in error, or both, but both cannot be right.
lutherans do. wels and lc-ms i know do.
Maybe that's because it doesn't. Here is a question for you. When Jesus instituted the practice of Communion at the Last Supper, was the bread and wine He served to the disciples the actual blood and body of Jesus?
Some of us do. However we believe that the bread and wine still exist as a vehicle for the Body and Blood, both are present together. We do however stop short of worshipping the wafers once they are consecrated.
To answer the original question on this thread, we are saved the only way it is possible to be saved. We believe with our hearts and confess with our mouths that Jesus Christ is Lord and has provided the atoning sacrifice to cover our sins.
>>But I don’t think they believe in the Real Presence, as in the bread and wine actually becoming the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus<<
There are millions that do. Conservative Anglican, Lutherans are two that I know of that proclaim this during the consecration of the elements.
Episcopalians believe in transubstantiation as well.
“But I don’t think they believe in the Real Presence, as in the bread and wine actually becoming the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus.”
No where in the Word of God does it say nor is it taught that the bread and wine ‘become’ the body and blod of my Lord Jesus. Jesus said, ‘This is my body...This is my blood...’
It is, it does not become. Catholics are wrong about transsubstantion, protestants about trasnliteration. It does not become, it does not represent...it is.
Maybe one of the best ways for a protestant to be saved is to never have been a catholic?