“We Are Church” Movement Leader Is “Shocked” by Her Excommunication

http://www.patheos.com ^ | May 22, 2014 | Kathy Schiffer

[NKP_Vet]

Martha Holzer, a senior leader in the dissident Catholic group We Are Church, is “shocked” that Pope Francis has taken the extraordinary step of excommunicating her and her husband Gert.

Pope Francis took this action after the pair “simulated the Mass”–that is, they regularly took part in “private Eucharistic celebrations” at her home with no priest present. The Church considers the simulation of the Mass a delictum gravius, or “grave delict”.

We Are Church, which has members in more than 20 countries, is notorious for its disregard for the priesthood–insisting, as they do, that all participate in the “priesthood of all believers” and that both men and women should be ordained to the ministerial priesthood.

Here in the United States, We Are Church’s member organizations are a Who’s Who of dissident groups including the American Catholic Council, Call To Action, Catholics Speak Out, Corpus, DignityUSA, FutureChurch, PaxChristi/Maine, the Women’s Ordination Conference, and others.

[cuban leaf]

Otherwise — you are doing YOPIOS — my opinion only.

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Yeah. YOPIOS. That is EXACTLY what I’m doing. The cool thing is that is why we have the bible in the first place. There is nobody between me and Jesus.

Communion is not about “consecrated hosts”. It is a symbol to remind us of what Jesus did for us. It is a very simple symbol of the foundational action upon which Christianity rests. He made it simple on purpose. A simple drinking of wine and eating of bread after a meal.

[trisham]

Good for you. Keep it up.

[Sir_Ed]

So...I guess your point is that it WASN’T God who miraculously rescued me?

Maybe it was Lola Falana?!

Ed

[Iscool]

If you are not practicing Catholic doctrine then don’t call yourself Catholic.

And yet you call yourselves Christians...

[Claud]

Yes, should have said transubstantiation. Point taken thank you.

[Morgana]

“we are church” never heard of them.

[oh8eleven]

I’ve stated my beliefs and if that’s not enough for you, TFB.

[oh8eleven]

I guess your point is that it WASN’T God who miraculously rescued me?

[Sir_Ed]

Well...it must have been good ol’ Lola Falana!

Thanks for the intelligent discourse!

Ed