Not so novel - in black and white in the next verse. To discount he is also describing being hoisted up on the cross ignores the very next verse: This he said, signifying what death he should die (vs. 33).
no evidence...quite an imagination
It takes the living and powerful Word of God, and you've been given historical evidence.
Well, Phillip, although it looked like a good-faith question you asked about God's Word being multidimensional, it looks like you're not interested other than to just argue against the idea of a living and powerful Bible. That's OK, but I'm not interested in sharing with one who's mind is closed.
You left out a part of what you wrote. This is all of it:
>>>[part 1]Scripture is alive ("quick") (Hebrews 4:12). It is not dead letter but of God's spirit (2 Cor 3:6). Jesus Christ is the very Word of God himself - alive and giving life. A word that is spoken will minster to the hearers at the time spoken while still referring to something in the future. [part 2]A simple example is Jesus saying, "And I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men to me" (John 12:32). Although this referred to how he would be hoisted up on the cross, it also refers to 2000 years of lifting up the name of Jesus drawing men to himself.<<<
I responded to both parts.
To the first part I responded as being "novel," which is defined in Merriam-Webster as "original or striking especially in conception or style." That is exactly the way I see it.
The second part I gave my own interpretation, which is not too dissimilar to yours; but with a twist about the Jesus-Father relationship. However, I believe the "theme" (if you will) of your comment was based on dual-fulfillment; and that particular example was weak, to be kind. I was hoping you could point to something where it is written, "this will be fulfilled both now and in the future."
For example, dispensationalists claim there will be a dual-fulfillment of Malachi's "Coming of Elijah" prophesy. If that was an accurate interpretation, one would think there would be at least one prophetic record of a dual fulfillment in the New Testament. Rather, Jesus gave not so much as a hint of a future fulfillment when he stated that John fulfilled the Malachi prophecy.
>>>It takes the living and powerful Word of God, and you've been given historical evidence.<<<
There is no historical or biblical evidence whatsoever that the messages of Jesus Christ to the seven churches in Asia meant anything other than what is written; and you have provided none.
>>>Well, Phillip, although it looked like a good-faith question you asked about God's Word being multidimensional, it looks like you're not interested other than to just argue against the idea of a living and powerful Bible. That's OK, but I'm not interested in sharing with one who's mind is closed.<<<
It appears your definition of "closed minded" is anyone who doesn't agree with you. If you ever want an honest, non-fluffy debate on the scriptures, look me up. If want to play lecturer, please pick someone else.
Philip