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To: HarleyD
So on the one hand, the Catholic Church since Vatican II has taught that the "old covenant" is still valid. On the other hand, they still teach that the Catholic Church is the "true Israel."

Does anyone else see a problem here? Either the "old covenant" is still valid or the Catholic Church is (chas veshalom!) the "new Israel." Both can't be true simultaneously.

I note also that this snarky "the Catholic Church is Israel" attitude doesn't keep the professional Jewish ecumenicists from fan-girling all over the Vatican while treating pro-Israel Fundamentalist Protestants like lepers. But then, the Catholic Church doesn't accept the historicity of Genesis 1-11. I guess the embarrassment of being associated with such people cancels out every other consideration.

17 posted on 05/14/2014 9:14:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
So on the one hand, the Catholic Church since Vatican II has taught that the "old covenant" is still valid. On the other hand, they still teach that the Catholic Church is the "true Israel."

Does anyone else see a problem here? Either the "old covenant" is still valid or the Catholic Church is (chas veshalom!) the "new Israel." Both can't be true simultaneously.

The Roman Catholic take on covenant theology is going to be quite different than that of classic Reformed C.T. In other words, Vatican II is not relevant right here.

21 posted on 05/14/2014 11:18:32 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Does anyone else see a problem here?

If you wish ME to explain the anomalies of the Catholic faith you've got the wrong person. ;O)

32 posted on 05/14/2014 5:17:00 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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