[D-fendr]

"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position."

[imardmd1]

Tracking back through posts 156 => 166 => 167 => 168 => 169 the underlying mutual assumption was "(water) baptism saves." And in the discussion I believe you claimed that (water) baptism brought the baptizee the gift of faith. B's response was Mk. 16:16 which says faith comes before baptism, and from which B seems to posit that water baptism saves.

Then I chimed in (actually uninvited to the exchange, merely observing as an onlooker) and corrected both of you, remarking that baptism is for believers, with the implication that baptism does not make one a believer; and wetting ones skin with water does not save. Those are not straw men distractions, they are statements directly negating both your basic assumptions and hypotheses arising from it. It was just an assessment of the silliness of your debate progress.

I also added an observation, not relative to your speculations, but touching the topic of baptizing Martians, as a teaser. Not having anything directly affecting your exchanges, had nothing to do with straw man or no straw man.

What are you trying to prove?