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To: xzins
Dear xzins,

Look, to us Catholics, Protestanism often looks like a denigration of Catholicism, especially around this place, where anti-Catholic bigotry is prized and protected. I remember one poster in particular who degraded the Holy Mother of God by commenting on her toilet habits in the most disgusting and filthy way. Said poster was quite welcome here on FR while degrading Catholic faith, practice, and belief. It was only when said poster started getting in the proprietor's face that he was banned.

I have seen the Blessed Sacrament ridiculed and mocked by many herein, called a "cracker," a "cookie," and other terms that are, I assure you, offensive to many Catholics. Even within this thread, Catholic belief in the Eucharist is belittled. I look at these "satanists" with their "re-enactment" of a black mass, and then I look at some of my "fellow" posters, and the differences appear to me to be of degree, not differences of kind.

In fact, let's face it, for several hundred years, the only official view of the Church was that Protestantism degraded Catholicism. But we all figured out (mostly) how to live with each other, and (mostly) don't go to war with each other, anymore. I like it that way. My son's dating a Lutheran (strict LCMS) girl, now (although she's promised to convert). She seems like a very nice girl; I'd hate it if my son couldn't date her because her denomination holds that the office of the pope is the anti-Christ.

Pride & my son - Maybe. Maybe not so much. Joy. Joy and gratitude. It's beyond my capacity to believe that I bear much responsibility for how my two sons have turned out. It's all grace.

Harvard has its own spirit and its own unity. But intrinsic to that spirit is that of free inquiry. Harvard is an exceedingly liberal place. It's an ocean of political liberalism and political correctness, and the vast majority of those who swim in it don't recognize the water for what it is. For my son, the environment is, in many ways, toxic (although it's toxic for reasons other than its liberalism).

But the school, in spite of its overwhelmingly liberal character, has tried hard to be open to all, including CONSERVATIVES, of which there are more than a few.

Harvard, itself, is not participating in this event. It isn't sponsoring it. It isn't accommodating it. The event's costs are being borne privately by the students making it happen.

I doubt that Harvard will somehow force the issue and have the event canceled, for reasons outlined previously.

However, it is my understanding that there will be a response from other quarters in the Harvard community. And Harvard, the university, the administration, will be hands-off toward that response (as long as everyone stays inside the law - you can SAY what you want at Harvard, but if you DO things that are illegal, the community doesn't tolerate that so well - look at the recent protests regarding fossil fuel divestment).


sitetest

84 posted on 05/08/2014 12:21:04 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
Look, to us Catholics, Protestanism often looks like a denigration of Catholicism, especially around this place, where anti-Catholic bigotry is prized and protected. I remember one poster in particular who degraded the Holy Mother of God by commenting on her toilet habits in the most disgusting and filthy way. Said poster was quite welcome here on FR while degrading Catholic faith, practice, and belief. It was only when said poster started getting in the proprietor's face that he was banned. I have seen the Blessed Sacrament ridiculed and mocked by many herein, called a "cracker," a "cookie," and other terms that are, I assure you, offensive to many Catholics. Even within this thread, Catholic belief in the Eucharist is belittled. I look at these "satanists" with their "re-enactment" of a black mass, and then I look at some of my "fellow" posters, and the differences appear to me to be of degree, not differences of kind.

REALLY, Sitetest???!!! Bemoaning the intentional denigration of your religion while doing the SAME thing to those without it smacks pretty hard as hypocrisy and lumping Freeper "Protestants" in with Satanists is a new low. What you call "anti-Catholic bigotry" most times is no more than a basic disagreement with Catholicism's dogmas and is not done with an intent to injure or hurt feelings. It's funny how FRoman Catholics can denigrate those they label as "Protestants" (really their catchall for non-Catholic Christians), make pointedly bigoted, belittling and hurtful comments, condemn all of us as bound for hell until we "swim the Tiber" and smugly assert a superior faith, worship style, understanding of sacred Scripture and relationship with Almighty God, but then act like persecuted innocents if it blows back on them. Catholics here rarely walk a mile in our shoes.

Perhaps if there really WAS more empathy and recognition of a shared love of God and the Christian faith, we could avoid the frequent dust ups and offensive banter. If we Conservative Freepers cannot find common ground around our shared beliefs and be able to respectfully discuss where we differ, what hope is there for the secular, liberal institutions out in the world?

85 posted on 05/08/2014 3:47:06 PM PDT by boatbums (quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus)
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