Chinese authorities demolished this church outside Wenzhou, Zhjiang province, on April 28
Posted on 05/06/2014 11:00:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Catholicism is not popular in China because the underground churches where Christ is flourishing don’t have priests and popes to tell them what to believe. They have The Bible. Therein lies their faith. No silly church traditions. No worshiping Mary and other dead humans. Christ alone.
Jealousy is a terrible thing.
I haven’t read anything as remotely ill-informed and silly as that remark in a long time.
where in the catechism of the catholic church are we taught to “worship” mary or dead humans?
its easier to be a Protestant....Catholics have all those “rules” to follow.....
“where in the catechism of the catholic church are we taught to “worship” mary or dead humans?”
Between the chapter about the secret Vatican supercomputer with all the Protestant names and locations and the chapter that details the Order of Albino Monk Assassins.
Obviously.
Freegards
Dan Brown, is that you?
Exactly.
Nope, actually never even read any Dan Brown. The idea of the supercomputer underneath the Vatican with all the Protestant names and locations is from a tract from He Who Is Too Embarrassing To Be Mentioned By Name On The Religion Forum.
Freegards
“A recent claim by a US-based Chinese academic to London’s Telegraph newspaper – that China would have the largest Christian population in the world by 2030 – was not only exaggerated but also factually wrong.”
The article as posted twice.
China on Course to Become ‘World’s Most Christian Nation’ Within 15 Years
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3146730/posts
More Christians in China than the USA?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3146502/posts
And again, neither China nor Russia are more free than the U.S.A. Bipartisan, political stealth socialists have no cause for cheering claims of victory over deposed private sector Americans. There are consequences for their economic and other errors yet to be realized.
Aside from rhetoric, I'm curious what is Communist or Leninist about the present Chinese system.
The issues and policies described here can be explained at least as easily by referring back to imperial Chinese response to Christianity and before that to Buddhism.
China has a looonnnggg history, yet the commentary on it generally assumes that only goes back to about 1949.
The systems in both China and North Korea at present have a lot more in common with the systems in place before 1900 than they do with anything Marx or Lenin would approve of. If we don't understand that, we'll have a lot more difficulty dealing with or understanding them.
After all, Communism and Leninism are themselves imports from Europe. Cultural imperialism.
I know a chinese-american woman whose parents raised her with Chinese spiritual beliefs. She had a little shrine in her house, of some sort. I asked her what her family actually worshipped. She had never thought about it, she just did it. So she went and asked her father about it. He said, “we worship our ancestors”. I told her that we Catholics had a special reverence for and closeness to our ancestors in faith— the Saints. Eventually my friend married a Catholic chinese-american.
I think maybe the Chinese would find Catholicism very comforting, precisely because of the heritage involved. They might find a faith without “silly traditions” to be very un-chinese.
Uhhhhh.
Present and upcoming comments on this thread are likely to indicate that a good many freeper Protestants and Catholics think that the other team are at minimum not "real Christians."
This notion led to a huge feud between the Jesuits, on one side, who wanted to allow converts to continue rites honoring (or worshipping, depending on your POV, Confucius and their ancestors) and the Franciscans and Dominicans, who wants all such rites prohibited as idolatry.
The controversy lasted from roughly 1640 to 1740, with the anti-rites side winning by a Papal decision. This was eventually reversed in 1939 and reinforced by Vatican II.
The controversy played a big role in Chinese government banning and eventually persecuting Christians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Rites_controversy
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