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To: NKP_Vet
The Bible gives explicit laws for death. Jesus said He didn't come to change the Law, but to fulfill it. That means to "pay the price". There is nothing wrong with us changing whatever penalty we want to from the Biblical price to an agreed upon price. Ergo, it isn't necessary to stone an adulteress, but adultery should always be forbidden in society.

What we see today is sodomy being celebrated rather than forbidden written into law. Sodomy is, and always has been a sin, but as long as the "sin" was kept in the dark, we haven't executed the perps for 200 years. Leviticus 18:22 tells us what God thinks of sodomy and the penalty for accepting it in the country is loss of your country. Murder has always had a death penalty except for the short period recently overturned by the SCOTUS. God recommended the penalties in the OT to solve societal ills, but we are not bound to kill a child that back talks his father. The problem lies when you don't agree with God that a sin is a sin. When you decide murdering your child is legal if it's in the womb, but a child is not executed for attacking his parents, it shows the prejudice against God's reasoning. If a homosexual was shunned and kept in the closet, I don't think God would punish the country that decided to change the law, but accepting sodomy into the society is grounds for God's intervention, ergo the Sodom and Gomorrah account. Most of the rest of the admonishments against homosexuals had to do with their own sinfulness and repentance, such as found in 1st Cor where Paul said "such WERE some of you". The sin could be forgiven if they repented and remained chaste or switched to heterosexual relationships. The problem remains the judgement that is carried out on the LAND that accepts sodomy. We can repent, but the land won't and must be judged. No one would suggest that we accept thieves into our midst, yet many of the death penalties in the Bible listed by Moses from God have been overturned in the modern age. If we wrote a law that said "blacks" should get the death penalty for a crime but whites should get prison time for the same crime, there would be an uproar. How is a defenseless child worth less legally than a child out of the womb? The injustice found in our laws for individuals I believe anger God as we move away from His civil structure as to what is a crime and what isn't.

Jesus came to fulfill GOD'S Law, not man's. He made little comment on man's law and appeared to refuse to challenge whatever the Romans had on the books at the time. He didn't refuse to pay Roman taxes, but had the advantage of getting money from a fish. This is why slavery is written about in the NT. God didn't take a position on it's legality, but gave a Christian's response to the treatment of slaves or the response a slave should have to his owner. This is how a Christian should treat a slave should they ever find themselves owning one. Obviously Jesus came to set the captive free, so I don't see Adam and Eve owning slaves. The reality was and had been for thousands of years that slaves were taken after battle from both sides and rules were written.

The old ruse that God wrote the 6th Commandment to stop the death penalty for murder is just a non believer's construct. A better translation of the law should have said "Thou shalt not murder", or "Thou shalt not shed innocent blood". As it is translated now, we have weirdo's that won't step on a cockroach, but will abort their child.

God measures the heart, so giving mercy to a criminal is not unlawful, but accepting the sin is an abomination to Him. A recent example was Karla Faye Tucker. She murdered people with pick ax and admitted it and received the death penalty. After several years in prison, she received Jesus and became a lay preacher in prison and brought many to repentance. The law said she was to die, but many believed she was no longer a threat to anyone and asked for mercy. The state had the right to execute her, but it could also show mercy. She was eventually executed due to politics. At the same time, murderers are grated clemency all the time without any repentance. In the end, we all meet God and are judged for our lives. The irony about Ms. Tucker was she was a repented killer, but the woman and man she killed were in the middle of committing adultery when she killed them. It would be ironic if God judged the victim and welcomed the murderer. If we received the "justice" that we should get, we are all doomed. Mercy is always desired, but Grace is unspeakable joy. That's why we sing about it as Christians.

28 posted on 05/05/2014 7:51:03 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

“She was eventually executed due to politics”

She was a powerful witness for Christ in a prison full of lost hopeless people and was successful in gaining many converts? No wonder Satan had to have her eliminated, it was “bad for business”. Politics, indeed!


34 posted on 05/05/2014 11:08:20 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: chuckles

If any condemned killer ever deserved clemency it was Karla Faye Tucker. She had the misfortune of being on death row in Texas, where if you are condemned to die you die. She actually met with George W. Bush and asked him to spare her. About a year after she was executed he was on Larry King Live talking about meeting her. When asked what she said to him, he said “she made a little prayer with her hands and said “please”. He smirked while telling the story.

http://www.itbn.org/index/detail/lib/Networks/sublib/TBN/ec/54NG8wMzpQ_yOtxgkr33OSPLYKkOLzn0


37 posted on 05/05/2014 12:25:13 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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