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To: MHGinTN; JimSEA

Think about it. Who is doing the ‘brainwashing from birth’ and is it slightly possible you are mis-reading these signs?

Evolution is classical cognitive dissonance if you consider all the hurdles for life in th millions and billions of years - all the resources and Earth’s should be entirely spent.

Geologic origins were based upon uniformitarianism yet now many are shifting to catastrophism. Darwin said his theory completely falls apart w/o thousands upon thousands of transitional fossils. Fossils show that they were laid down quickly and buried not gradual processes.


23 posted on 05/01/2014 11:04:46 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

Modern geology began with James Hutton in the 18th century. His observations lead him to believe the earth was very old and that change was gradual. Later, specific rock structures suggested occasional catastrophic events that left their marks and occurred suddenly. One does not contradict the other and I know of no one outside of some creationists that propose catastrophism as the “answer”.

Any geologist will bring up certain events in our past that drastically changed things for evolution and structure of the earth. The Siberian Traps, snowball earth, asteroid collisions and super volcanos have all been proposed as events that changed everything. However, the effects of plate tectonics overwhelm all the sudden catastrophes. The Permian extinction was followed by an explosion of surviving life forms, the Snowball earths were melted in part by plate movements and volcanic activities. Even Toba Super Volcano had transient effects. The collision of the Indian and Eurasian plates, forming the Himalayas vastly influenced world climates but it’s been a slow process. In fact most of the changes which have changed the world have been slow processes. The building of the Andes, joining North and South America, etc. have all been accomplished at 2” a year.

I’ve worked where the understanding of contemporary geology provided the definition and extent of ore bodies as well as an understanding of how they were formed. That is hands on, not brainwashing.


26 posted on 05/01/2014 11:45:11 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: BrandtMichaels
Well, since you asked, God could have created the entire Universe last week. The memories you believe originating from two weeks ago could be as easily fabricated by The Creator as the processes science say take millions of years. (Carbon dating, anyone? Isotope generation, anyone?)

I would expect you to object to that assertion of a week ago, and with good reason, but not with proof irrefutable. You see it is the same problem regarding painting God as a Trickster, which He is not, not even in the minutest aspect. The laws of the Universe He has created are not immutable to God The Creator. However, we have good reason to believe that The God Whose name is I AM is the origin of the very laws of Physics and Chemistry we utilize. Until you can show me an irrefutable proof that the same laws we use have changed in the last 6000 years, I will continue to make the broad assumption that they do not change so easily and are 'universal' across spacetime.

If we want to debate the Darwinist theory of evolution of species then I would immediately go to the fossil record of the Cambrian explosion. I have yet to hear any Darwinist explain how that occurred in the reference frame of Darwin's theory. The closest anyone has come is the notion of punctuated equilibrium. I'm not on this thread to poke holes in Darwinism. I'm posting in order to abjure the notion that God, my God, is a Trickster. YEC, to my reasoning, makes God out to be a trickster when all is filtered out. I will not agree to that, even on an oblique Internet chat thread.

28 posted on 05/01/2014 12:02:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: BrandtMichaels
If you want some rather dry historical geology reading that gives evidence to an ancient earth, this is the publication I read that got me interested in geology . I was working at the mine at the time. My Dad worked there for thirty years as well as at gold mines in California and Oregon. He also supervised the initial diamond drilling at the San Manuel Mine where I later worked for many years. I'm not trying to insult you or give you a hard time. I think you might find this interesting. I'm not trying to have anyone give up their Christian faith. I am a Christian, just not a young earth advocate.
32 posted on 05/01/2014 2:12:23 PM PDT by JimSEA
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