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To: Campion; fishtank
You snipped out the word "grace". Did you intend or mean to imply the word "works" (from James 4) should be substituted for "grace"?

The phrase which you were apparently condemning was not; "justified by faith alone" but "justified through grace by faith alone".

Not justified by works, although one not only can SHOW their faith by their works, but are indeed called to/required to do so, or else the faith not put into action is useless.

A key word from James, is that word "show". It can unlock meaning there without running afoul of it being impossible to justify ourselves and the grace extended to us by our own "works".

The faith itself can be shown however, even though the world as it were would not consider it justified, for there is often no immediate "worldly" gain when showing or putting faith (in Christ, and His overall message) but rather it can be costly or less than convenient.

Have at it if you'd care to have another go at it?

Putting faith into action can be so simple even a caveman can do the first part, though through distractions of the world can likely fail at the second, leading to then failing at the first part [of the below]

From the same book of James, the first chapter;

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Does my putting it this way make any sense?

Now for the rest of the thread's article --- I don't know much one way or another, for I haven't gone to the link to read it yet beyond skimming through what is visible here.

We do have our traditions around here, you know? lol

16 posted on 04/30/2014 9:29:33 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; Campion; fishtank
Apologies.

I meant to write when putting faith in Christ (etc.) into action having left out the putting or doing "action" part.

17 posted on 04/30/2014 9:33:17 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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