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To: Faith Presses On

So depending on the boy’s age... although he was healed by Jesus... not sure he’s saved?

This sounds like a pro-choice argument regarding when life really begins.


354 posted on 05/01/2014 9:09:03 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99

These are two different matters. In this case we’re talking about what a story in the Gospels says and reveals. It also isn’t dependent on the man’s son being a certain age or not. It is a matter of a child being immature so that he or she can’t repent or believe. When Pakistan put a baby on trial for murder recently there was an international outcry, for good reason.
Everything written has to be accounted for. It’s not a matter of having a license to decide that the Bible is contradictory so one can throw out what doesn’t fit one’s belief. When things seem contradictory, incomplete, etc., we have let it all speak to us since it’s all there for a reason. (Cont’d)


355 posted on 05/01/2014 6:08:25 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: rwilson99

Actually, the point is that a baby or young child simply can’t repent or believe in Jesus as their Savior. In that case, a baby or young child simply isn’t counted. Maybe you heard that recently in Pakistan a baby was charged with murder until the international news reported on it. If, for example, several people and a baby were in a house where a crime was committed and one of them committed the crime, no one would have to say, “all but the baby are suspects.” Could they? Yes. But they could say “everyone there at the time is a suspect,” and most people wouldn’t even give a thought to the baby because they understood completely. And the Bible is even more extreme in leaving out explanation so that even apparent contradictions are created, like that we are to love others, but we are also to hate everyone close to us. The Bible also tells us flat-out to call no one father. As I said, too, I will try to find or be on the lookout for some similar uses of words, because I’ve encountered them. (CONT’D)


356 posted on 05/01/2014 6:43:27 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: rwilson99

Something else to consider, too, is that Jesus told a man that he healed to sin no more lest a worse thing come upon him (John 4). We know little else about this man or even exactly what Jesus meant , but from this and other stories of Jesus’ encounters with people we see that He knew people and where they were spiritually individually. Wherever this man was, He needed a strong warning from Jesus after being healed. And he might even have been healed without repentance at that point in time.


357 posted on 05/01/2014 7:04:44 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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