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To: rjsimmon
You need to read what Peter wrote.
1Pet.1

[1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
[11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
[12] Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
[13] Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

If you cannot see the future tense of all that he presents, then try this from the mouth of Yeshua himself:

Matthew 24:

[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. [13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Nowhere in the word is salvation promised before we meet him at the end.

37 posted on 04/24/2014 2:27:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Trust me, I have read what Peter wrote. I have taught on what Peter wrote. Peter is not talking about gaining salvation at a later date. The realization of salvation comes when we meet Christ, either in death or at the Glorious Appearing. Peter’s epistle is encouraging those being persecuted to endure their suffering. Why is that so hard for you to understand?


41 posted on 04/24/2014 3:24:09 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: editor-surveyor; rjsimmon
If you cannot see the future tense of all that he presents, then try this from the mouth of Yeshua himself:

Your tenses are utterly confused. Most of what Peter here has written is in the present tense, which is that for those who have the gift of salvation, it is an action in process from the moment it was initiated by God. Your premise is wholly grammatically incorrect and therefore invalid.

You'd better think this through. God's plan is to effect a general salvation prepared before Adam sinned. Since that time, every descendant of Adam exercising committed trust in The Faith of Jehovah Jesus has a portion of that plan which exists, is not now seen, but which will be unveiled at the consummation of the plan.

Each person receiving that gift is the one whom The God, through foreknowledge, discerns the moment of irreversible commitment of oneself into the care of the Saving One.

This person is thus instantaneously freed from guilt and death by The God's declaration, on the basis of Christ's righteousness imputed to him, and receives eternal life.

Justification is inatantaneous, but unearned salvation and rewarded sanctification are processes.

You might want to get out your NT Greek grammar book.

49 posted on 04/25/2014 2:56:07 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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